What do you tell people when they ask you why you don't believe in God?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Blissfullyawareofitall, Jul 4, 2011.

  1. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    it is not got which i do not believe in, but the substituting of sanctimoniousness for responsibility and the denial that aggressiveness and evil are one and the same. also the lie that humans unaided are incapable of the self discipline to be considerate.
     
  2. willedwill

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    Evolution is Naturally occuring without a soul; and a soul is best dry and willfully Holistic: seeking heroism of excrutiating Pain. Ha!!
     
  3. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    The troll is on a roll!
     
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  5. sunfighter

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    I wouldn't want to live in a place where people asked you if you believe in God. Around here, stuff like that is very private and none of your business.
     
  6. scratcho

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    I would say-"why would you ask me that?" It's always interesting to induce someone to define their motives/positions and WHY is the best way to do it.
     
  7. TheBigC

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    Move to England... at least where I live everyone is atheist or doesn't care.
     
  8. indydude

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    Doesn't England have a lot of religious immigrants? Arent you concerned that a religious void will be filled by new religious believers? Anthropologists say societies are defined when a religion or philosophy binds the culture. A culture with no philosophy or religion will devolve.
     
  9. meridianwest

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    where's your quote or reference? cause this doesn't sound like a result of anything professional. there are several nonreligious nations/countries on this planet. they're not devolving anywhere. take Sweden and Japan for example.
     
  10. Okiefreak

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    But that's why I believe in God.
     
  11. Okiefreak

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    Without necessarily trying to defend the proposition, there is some plausible intuitive support for it. Unfortunately, nice societies may finish last, and barbarians may have the upper hand when it comes to survival. Mainline Christian rationalists, who are willing to tolerate just about anything, are a dwindling species in competition with fire and brimstone Evangelicals. Political conservatives have the same advantage over liberals. You mention Swedes. Nice people, although I have a stereoptype of them (shaped by conservative propaganda and Ingmar Bergman movies) as being rather dour people, with high alcoholism and suicide rates and lips pursed into perpetual umlauts. Likewise the Norwegians. But the latter were lambs to the slaughter when a nutcase berserker calling himself a Templar went on his rampage. Jihadists have been able to intimidate European governments into limiting freedom of speech that might offend Islam, although a brave band of Danish cartoonists stood up to them. In the United States, Libertarian Ron Paul laments the termination of Al Qaeda leaders who planned and attempted campaigns of violence against the United States because they happened to be American citizens, no matter that American citizens who are running amok in our streets could be taken out with deadly force if necessary to protect innocent people.
     
  12. themnax

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    >i am not the one denying that aggressiveness and evil are one and the same
    >i am not the one denying that diversity is the nature of reality
    >i am not the one denying that imagination is what makes us human
    >i am not the one denying that anything can exist without being known or even imagined
    >i am not the on denying that something like your god can exist
    >i am not the one denying that whatever resembling your god that exists, is under absolutely no obligation to bear the slightest resemblence to anything you claim or imagine to know about it
    >i am not the one
     
  13. Asmodean

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    Indeed, never tell them you're the one!

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  14. heeh2

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    I just have a different definition of truth than you
     
  15. rouge_drone

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    I told a christian I wasnt christian and he said i was scared.

    I told a christian I wasnt a christian and she figuratively had a heart attack.

    Some people don't know what there talking about. Look up roll away your stone on youtube.
     
  16. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i don't call myself an atheist because of this:

    i believe there is something big, friendly and invisible for three reasons:

    > that nothing has to be known or even imagined (in order) to exist
    > we're still here, and
    > i've been hugged by it.

    i do not believe it has a damd thing to with christianity or even islam, other then christ and mahammid being the 23rd and 24th respectively, whom it may, as stated implicitly by baha'u'llah, at roughly thousand year intervals, have choosen to be channelled by.

    i don't entirely trust (any of these) these chanellings, though i like what appears to be some of their intentions.

    but i don't believe we would be unable to get along without them. not only get along, but build a peaceful and harmonious world based on universal mutual considerateness.

    if people want to claim or pretend i don't believe in a god, because i don't believe in what they pretend to know about it, i don't see that as being my problem. i believe it to be theirs.
    theirs, and that of the dominant cults, that because they are dominant, are called religions.
     
  17. Humperdink

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    I've got a tazer in my hand here that says I bet I can change your undewear. Knocking somebody out and changing their underwear is easy. Changing someone's belief, especially once they are a born again Christian, is impossible. That's why the Christians in China are so strong; it is impossible to change their belief, and if you kill them they are martyrs and 2 more rise in their stead. A good book about this is called "The Heavenly Man", would be especailly good reading for those atheists who believe all Christians should be tortured then killed.

    So far I have not heard any new reasons why people don't believe in God; they all seem to be at least 200 years old.
     
  18. Cherea

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    I tell them I`d rather keep my reasons private. The implication being: if we do not change the subject, I will leave. I`m such a funcrusher. :D
     
  19. rouge_drone

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    basically when someone tries to convert you its like being on the receiving end of anal sex. some people like that, some people don't.

    im good.
     
  20. willedwill

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    A... haah, but i've explained that creative joking concept. At last it came to your advantsge that sexuality behind your back should, instead of hanging you, invite you to renounce your point of view. But your fickleness prefers action for responsibility.
     

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