What do you believe?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Razorofoccam, Mar 9, 2010.

  1. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    I believe in love
     
  2. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    Do you believe in Gosh?
     
  3. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    That funny guy on Youtube? :sunny:
     
  4. SeverineComplex

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    This writing of yours, and the one above it, was just absolutely stunning. I am just impressed. I was going to ramble a tad about my own thoughts, basically my struggles, going from pure agostiscism to now seeing "god" as more of a simple of a compass for compassion and consncious, and believing in a spirituality, but that's about it. I'm obsessed with the philosophy of Dostoevsky, who is obviously more religious than me, but he was the one who got me to see that is is a spiritual compass, and turned me on to the wider concept of existenialism, etc., but your statements just had to be honored!
     
  5. chillll

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    i believe that everything just does what it does because thats how it is and how it was meant to be. i dont really question any more than that. i geuss when it comes to that question, i would simply say "i dont believe.". my lack keeps me content, but sadly others always want to push theyre beliefs on you so that you "dont go to hell".
     
  6. themnax

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    diversity is the nature of reality
    aggressiveness and evil are one and the same
    imagination is what makes us human
    nothing has to be known or even imagined in order to exist.
    9/10ths of the unknown is 9/10ths more likely to be your (real) friend then 9/10ths of the known.
    some things do happen more often then others.
    the others happen too. just less often.
    some things happen more often when other things happen first.
    truth is what is there, when no one is saying anything.
    all of us together, create the conditions each of us individually experience. this is a statistical process. we live in a statistical universe.
    the existence of one or more gods or god like beings, should one or more choose to exist, does not make it hierarchical.
    it is good to love them. it is good to be thankful to them. it is still up to US to not screw it all up for each other.
    these are the basics. in no particular order.
     
  7. ASOSASK

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    I believe the word "belief" leads to much confusion.
    Scientific proofs are of pragmatic value; they are not enduring, so even belief here is always tentative. I prefer to synthesise and ponder rather than dogmatize.
     
  8. PEACEFUL LIBRA

    PEACEFUL LIBRA DAMN RIGHT I'M A WEIRDO

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    believe that there is no God, but Allah and that Mohammed is his prophet, the final prophet and messenger and that the Qur'an is the final revelation from God.
     
  9. LoneDeranger

    LoneDeranger Trying to pay attention.

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    I believe anybody can believe whatever the hell they want, as long as it gets them through the night and doesn't step on anybody else's beliefs.
     
  10. oscar2u

    oscar2u Banned

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    The old desert god is an asshole and we all end up dead sooner or later, one way or another.
     
  11. Jack the Stripper

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    not sure if this was already said because tbh i dont have the patience to read that many replies haha. but i believe that we are here to live, to remain the dominant race on earth and to reproduce. personally idc why we are here or how we got here i just know that i am here so im gonna live my life how i want without the boundries of religion and faith
     
  12. themnax

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    nothing i have observed in this life is ever final, save for the ending of individual lives in it. or rather the ending of the living of the organisms they were inhabiting at the time of their demise. this does not eliminate the possibility of other finalities, but it certainly doesn't suggest them either.
     
  13. themnax

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    i couldn't find the edit button, or i would simply have rewritten my previous post instead of adding another one immediately after it, however many weeks, months years or what ever this is later.

    to summarize, hopefully a bit better.

    what i don't believe is that anything needs to be infallible. nor that reality is in any way inherently hierarchal.

    what i do believe, is that nothing has to be known, or even imagined, in order to exist.

    thus it quite reasonable, that all sorts of neat fun invisible things might very well exist. including one that might properly called a god. without any of them having to have the slightest thing to do with anything anyone thinks they know about it.
     
  14. noyb5349

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    I'm an agnostic.
     
  15. Carlid

    Carlid Banned

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    I am agnostic, I don't believe in absolute truths. That said I have seen enough "religious" idiots on either side of the debate to make me think that I should move to another planet, one with sentient people perhaps?
     
  16. relaxxx

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    I believe in what makes sense. Atheism makes sense. The scales of idiocy and probability are tipped over in opposite directions.
     
  17. rtpfisherman

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    I am a strong atheist.
     
  18. themnax

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    i believe there are totally non-physical things, which have totally non-imaginary existence.
    i also believe there is a very high likelihood of their being unlike and unrelated to, the claims, names and depictions attributed to them, by any popular or organized belief.

    i believe that much that is attributed to them, is largely up to our selves. our statistical selves together more then our individual selves. but our selves none the less.

    dominant beliefs don't entirely deny the latter, but their answer to it is a magic wand that doesn't always work. that of adherence to arbitrary, easily and often misunderstood, doctrine.

    this is not a reason to discard their intent, but rather to seek and implement more objectively honest methods.

    i believe any name i make up, will be a name i make up.

    i believe that books are written by hands no less fallible then my own.

    but i do believe that wisdom exists in the past, in the present and in the future.
     
  19. Okiefreak

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    You say that with such pride. Strong atheists, as I understand it, say there is no God, not simply that they don't believe in God. Strong atheists are easy to refute, since there is no proof one way or another on the God issue. Strong atheism is therefore a weak position.
     
  20. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Beliefs only argue with other beliefs. In that vain, one belief is as good as another. Strength is demonstrated in practice and impeccability with ones word.
     

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