what connects the drugs heroin (opiates), cocaine and cannabis?

Your sig is pretty obnoxious. You should make it smaller. =P

I already said beer, wine, and ethanol are not found in nature in a drinkable form. You have to gather the yeasts and stick them in a sugar solution or whatever it is they consume, to get the ethanol.

 

why is there any reason to think that amphetamine cant occur naturally? if all these other whacky phenethylamines can, then amphetamine and methamphetamine probably can too.

But only in trace amounts.

Opiates, cocaine, and marijuana plants all produce enough on a single plant or crop to get doses from, directly.

to get the amphetamine from acacia requires many extraction steps.

methamphetamine is much less dirty, in my oppinion, than nicotine.

alcohol occurs naturally but all the alcohol we drink is manufactured.

But its manufacture process basically involves putting a bunch of ingredients together and leaving it. so its not the same as laboratory synthesised chemicals.

 

when tobacco became an industry it became nastier than meth, but there was nothing wrong in the way native americans and shamans used it, just my opinion... anyways stonnerbill why growing from earth n not being psychedelic give opiates, cocaine and cannabis so much populairty?

 

marijuana is a plant. heroin and coke is processed. but i agree for the most part.

 

The question is perhaps not what makes -them- so popular, and moreso assume that all drugs that grow in the ground are popular, but psychedelics are not popular.

 

i dnt get it...

 

i think the reason is cannabis, cocaine and heroin are pleasure drugs, they are habit forming drugs, n they are drugs takin in the comfort of ur own home, alone... unlike psychedilics, u r guranteed to have a euphoric blissful time, with psychedlics things can go wrong... plus psychedelics and mdma are done with people, outside the house, in raves, festivals, nature etc... u cnt take an e pill or an acid blotter n lay down n watch tv... u cnt take a psychedlic everytime u feel depressed, stressed, worn out, n wanna escape the troubles of everyday life... cannabis, cocaine and heroin are drugs people do to feel good, not for enlightment, spirituality, connecting with others or discovering the truths of the universe... they r narcotics... ofcourse cannabis can be used in both ways...

 

all drugs other than psychedelics and dissasociatives are 'pleasure drugs'

 

would u consider mdma a pleasure drug?

 

LOL.

MDMA is THE pleasure drug

 

not in the way cocaine and heroin r...

 

actually, it totally is. except it is not grown in the ground and thus is not part of that group

 

Wow, imagine what the ancients would've called a plant that synthesized MDMA.....

Imagine the culture that would've grown around such a thing in ancient times...

 

there would be a lot of addicts thats for sure!!

and lots of orgies

 

what connects the drugs heroin (opiates), cocaine and cannabis?

My answer to this question coming from a different direction than the other replies.

The war on drugs and drug education is what connects heroin, cocaine, and cannabis. They have been telling us for years, and treating marijuana as if it is just as dangerous as heroin and cocaine.

Our prisons are filled with non-violent drug offenders. Many of which are simply marijuana users, not drug kingpins or even dealers.

Young people try marijuana, and when they see how harmless marijuana is, they experiement with cocaine and heroin - which are more addictive and harmful. I'm not saying that marijuana is a gateway drug, I'm saying that drug education is doing a very poor job of telling kids the truth about drugs.

 

MDMA sucks ... there would have been wars n massacres all the time when people were coming down, n we would have evolved into really thin mofos with no teeth...

 

^ MDxx's comedowns are not as bad as coke, methylphenidate, and oxycodone IMO

 

to me its worst, a cocaine comedown last for a couple of hours, a craving, then it goes, u can even avoid it by taking an opiate... an mdma comedown stays with u for a week, serotonin depletion, mood swings, mdma is a very powerful psychologically complex chemical drug, i hate mdma, oh n btw i never tried pills only molly... does oxy have a comedown? never heard of that? never used it but heroin and opium dnt....

 

Does oxy have a comedown.....

It's an opiate. You feel awesome. Then, you start to feel shitty and fiend for more.

You have quite the exaggerated MDMA comedown. Usually it's only the next day for me.

 

i usually end up sleepin when on opiates n wake up the next day satisfied feel great not fiending for anything... trust me if anything i "underexaggerated" my mdma comedown, i hate the feeling of laying on ur bed, back hurting, not being able to sleep, n even if u do, u feel that u can never fully sleep, like ur half awake, it suck for me... n the next couple of days r kinda gloomy, with lots of mood wings, mdma is not for me...