What colour was Jesus???

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by 4_Leaf_Clover, Oct 27, 2004.

  1. BlackGuardXIII

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    Jews are an ethnicity, you say...I forgot to address that one. Here is what you said.

    Getting back to the original topic - Judaism is an ethnicity and Jesus was ethnically a Jew. Jews may have had a 'typical' physical appearance but whether you like it or not - they could vary anywhere from dark black to light pink.

    Okay, they could vary whether I like it or not? huh? what the fuck. Here is what I said. oh that is what i said they vary i do like it that is why i said it.


    Originally Posted by BlackGuardXIII
    Judaism is not an ethnicity. There are Jews in Ethopia that are just as Jewish as ones from England.

    and finally, the idea of Jews having a typical appearance is bullshit. sorry, it just is. How could a Jew from Northern European descent have the same ethnicity as an Ethiopian Jew who is dark black? Maybe you and I differ on what typical means.
     
  2. BlackGuardXIII

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    good point I guess so. oh yeah i admitted that right at the start.
     
  3. BlackGuardXIII

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    He was the dad, or why put his lineage in the bible? to prove royal blood.
    He just knocked her up before the second marriage, so it was considered shameful to admit, so there ya go.
    I like the begats of Joseph cuz it helps my argument that beloved John the disciple was actually a woman. If you look up Josephs ancestry, it names a 'son named Joanna.' Then at the tomb, with Mary, again, Joanna.
    Only one gospel gives a close up crucifixion account, Johns. What does Joanna mean.....John. just a thought
     
  4. Brocktoon

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    Your confused because your a Racist.

    You categorise people as 'different' from other people based on their physical appearance (darker to lighter).

    You probably even believe someone black has 'evolved' from a different line than someone with White Skin.

    Jews were an ethnic group,
    If one particular family of one particular tribe were dark and had black hair and eyes.. . that had nothing to do with changing anything.
    They were still Jews.

    Keep in mind - we are talking about Jews before the Diaspora.
    after that.. you might find Jews in Scotland.. and Jews spread to Russia and so on.. and they have taken on the 'Ethnic habits' of their host countries.
     
  5. seamonster66

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    Oh, I thought if he had a deadbeat dad that would prove he was black ;)

    SO mary was a little whore? Maybe this christianity nonsense has some merit after all!
     
  6. BlackGuardXIII

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    different is different, is black white? you are confused cuz you are confused.

    I dont for a second believe that Africans in Ethiopia descended from Jews, if that is your point. I am mildly biased in favour of whites, as I posted earlier, according to a psychology test I took.
    From my perspective you are off the charts. You still havent admitted that Africans are more likely than Germans to have been working on the pyramids.
    You even went so far as to give them an overseeing role as consultants, Germans. and Africans were unlikely.
    Where do you get your information? The mud hut dwellers across the sea, more likely than Africans, in Egypt, which you point out is 'technically in Africa'

    technically in Africa, help me with that one too. you and i just disagree brocktoon
     
  7. BlackGuardXIII

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    Now you get the picture hey, it is starting to make sense. Wait for chapter two where Jesus marries a black woman who is later portrayed as a prostitute, yet was his closest confidante. And his son, Jesus Justus, who went to Glastonbury. Cant forget him.
    All the deadbeat dads I know are white as ghosts, but I think we all know what you mean.

    Sarah, Abrahams wife, I think she was black too. hm.
    I have a slightly different view of events than most, though, and dont expect many to agree with me.
     
  8. seamonster66

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    I was joking, I don't know a single deadbeat dad, black or white.

    and of course you only know white ones, you live in the pacific northwest;)
    I think I was the most non-white person in town when I lived up there, and I'm white I guess.
     
  9. Brocktoon

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    For some reason DarkGuard is very excited about the Pyramids and who may (or may not) have helped build them.
    Hmm?
    Well, in Heiroglyphics (sp) the actual workmen are portrayed as being extremely dark coloured.
    Mind you... they are the Workmen and would be as tanned as a roofer in summer whether they started off light or not.
    Eqyptian Mummies are pretty much the same look as Eqyptians today (though less Arab features).
    There's no reason to believe there were many 'Germanic' peoples involved in any large groups (i.e. Workmen)
    It certainly could be possible that 'Anglo' looking planners, mathematicians might have been called down for some consultations.
    (only speculation that is possible)

    Certainly could have been the same case with Sub-Saharan planners or consultants sure.
    No real reason to believe the Eqyptians werent entirely capable of doing this by themselves anyway.

    What have you got against Eqyptians being given credit for building huge pyramids?
    Why is it so lofty to build Pyramids anyway?

    At least Germans were busy perfecting their agriculture skills .. something that actually feeds people instead of simply creating huge expensive shrines.

    ................

    We will never know what Jesus looked like, however there is at least some historical evidence that he 'might' very well look like a tall, auburn-haired semetic man with a beard and parted hair.
    Do we 'know' for sure - no.
    Is it ok to use that look in our representations? - yes of course.
     
  10. BlackGuardXIII

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    Anglo looking mathematicians!!!!
    I get it, your from Monty Python, arent you.
    You know so little about the time period that this is pointless. Its Michael Palin right?
    You can make up your history off the top of your head and pretend the guy looked like whatever you want, and pretend whoever you want built the most amazing structure standing on the surface of the earth today, The Great Pyramid. I would not have said a peep about anything if I did not constantly notice this Eurocentrist attitude which is just dripping from your most recent post. Totally ignore the facts, no wait, don't even bother to look at them in the first place, just argue your totally uninformed opinion.
    Egypt is not 'technically' in Africa, okay. It just plain is.
    Germans didnt send anglo looking mathmaticians to Egypt to help. Though, Egyptians did help settle Ireland and Scotland in the ancient past.
    The points are moot, though, thank you for giving me your views.
     
  11. BlackGuardXIII

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    Certainly could have been the same case with Sub-Saharan planners or consultants sure.
    No real reason to believe the Eqyptians werent entirely capable of doing this by themselves anyway.

    What have you got against Eqyptians being given credit for building huge pyramids?
    Why is it so lofty to build Pyramids anyway?

    That was you, sir, not me. You brought up Sub Saharans, for what reason again, oh yeah, you never gave one, I did though, remember.
    I agree, Egyptians probably did do it by themselves, and like you said at one point, they did have a very cosmopolitan society.
    I never in my life have said anything against Egyptians building them, that was you.
    Why, you ask. I dont know for sure, but after years of study, and hundreds of books read on it. My humble opinion is that they were just calling cards from our ancestors, who saw the 9500 BC extinction level event coming long before it did, and wanted us to know they had been here.
    If the dimensions, materials, logistics, design, layout, and time period of the Great Pyramids construction are examined as best as our modern science can, we find that they are far more amazing than what you see. And not one great mind of today has presented a credible plan for replicating it. We still could not.
    Imagine before the city of Cairo stripped the white limestone finishing stones for their own use.
    Herodotus described them in 400 BC and being clearly not manmade, though the priests said they were, he scoffed and said they looked like gods had thrown dice in the sand.
    Back then you could still see the Sphinx's nose....wide, flat nose. The sphinx, too, is a mystery. easily 5000 yrs. older than is taught.
    I wonder about the labrynth.
    Herodotus said it was more impressive than the pyramids.
    I am passionate about this, yes, I have spent my life reading about it.
    And to hear some off the cuff suggestion that the Nazis may have had a point, that the Germans did help, when it is totally and utterly ludicrous, as Germany's own archeologists will tell you, irks me.
     
  12. Brocktoon

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    The Pyramids are certainly impressive .. but i fail to see how or why they are the standard by which all civilisations would be judged by?

    So by your logic... Brown North Africans are 'Superior' to all other 'Races'?

    Id love to see your thinking run wild on that question ;)
     
  13. BlackGuardXIII

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    Brocktoon, since you refuse to clarify, respond, or refute the points you have made that I have repeatedly written here, asking for your explanation.
    And, since you continue to state I am claiming things which I never have claimed. Please paste my statement that all civilizations should be judged by the pyramids, if there is one, which I doubt. I only said that the Great Pyramid is so amazing, no one has been able to satisfactorily explain the logistics of its construction.
    I would not judge a civilization by its buildings anyway. The Australian Aborigines are an amazing group, which I humbly praise, and admire greatly, for example. I would put no culture ahead of theirs.
    I never did, and would not, state that any ethnicity is superior. Period.
    Please find where I said such nonsense and I will apologize.
    There is only one race. The human race.
    nuff sed.
     
  14. Brocktoon

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    Hey BlackGuard (who dumped a girlfriend because she was Black may i add hmmm?)

    Here is my favourite.. lol.. absolutely classic comedy clip from you:

    "It took me years before I even realized how prejudiced I had been. I still am in fact, according to a test I took in psychology. I am mildly biased in favor of whites. "

    YEssssssss! LMAO!
    Looks like we got a little bit of a racist on our hands.
    Classic!
     
  15. BlackGuardXIII

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    She dumped me actually.
     
  16. Raving Sultan

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    Lets get back to talking about jesus folks...
     
  17. BlackGuardXIII

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    Okay, good point. Yeshua Ben Joseph will always be in my heart.
     
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    the jewish race as is in the bloodline. there are many jews around the world who were born as jews yet dont follow the religion. just like the native maori of my country. there are many who live or maraes and follow true original maori culture, and there are others who live just as i do. many "true maori" see the general maori populace as not true to the culture and therefor only a maori by blood. there are people who are jewish by blood, there are people who are jewish by faith. and of course there are people who are jewish because of both. im not an expert on this, this is just my understanding.. it could very well be wrong..

    Websters Dictionary-
    Jew.
    1. a person descended, or regarded as descended, from ancient Hebrew of Biblical times.
    2. a person whose religion is Judaism.
     
  19. BlackGuardXIII

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    Sounds pretty accurate to me. The Ethiopian Jews are some of both, some being descended from Solomon and Sheba, and others who are converts. I agree with you, and my only reason for asking that is because, in my view, there is no such thing as a 'typical Jew'.
    I could be wrong.
     
  20. arlia

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    jesus was jewish so he were prob dark with a big ol beard
     

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