Yeah, I'm one of those weirdos that is extremely aware and at peace with her own mortality. :rofl: Right? Or a fucking cell phone battery for that matter. Wft?
Also, what makes anyone so sure that if we were to colonize Mars, that the average commoner would be allowed there should existence on this planet be threatened? People place too much trust in people with power and wealth. Like LornaDoom said, there is enough on this planet that is fucked up and needs to be dealt with before we go trying to make things habitable for humans on other planets. That's not going to happen, though.
This isn't a NASA project. Most of the applicants are "average commoners." They actually specifically stated that they need not to be scientists to apply. I honestly don't think they're trying to use this as a scapegoat if shit hits the fan. It seems to me like it's a giant science fair experiment. It could either turn out to be an awesome feat of science, or a epic failure. The people coordinating/funding this program aren't philanthropists, so they're not interested in solving the world's problems. They're interested in space travel. Their money to decide to do with as they please, imo. As long as it's not costing the tax payer anything, let them do what they want as far as I'm concerned.
Good point. Exploration of the past was mainly driven to find resources for survival or to satisfy greed(which is survival instinct out of control). It is difficult to not have our idea of exploration limited to that view of being necessary. It may not be necessary to colonize Mars now, but colonizing new area for exploration purposes could lead to technology that we may need later. Our instinct yo search out resources has not failed in helping us to survive yet. Technologies that are developed in going to Mars might help later generations survive when earth becomes uninhabitable. There may even be discoveries that could be very useful for us now ad well.
Its basically a lot of argumentative divas getting very dramatic and having tantrums with each other. (Kind of reminds me of a forum I went to a few yrs ago... :redface: ) The plot does sound a little like a sci fi version of Cabin Fever hehe This is what I can't fathom. Maybe thats what NASA are suggesting in a round about way. In other words, will the media rights actually be enough to make the whole project work?
True. I say if a bunch of billionaires want to toss some money around in the name of science, then alright. It's not costing the tax payer a dime, and who knows what we could discover. Ah ok, I don't think I'll watch that show lol. Well, it's not a NASA project. They have no hand in this at all. I don't think media rights will fund even half of what would be needed for this.
That *would* be cheaper tho. Send the cast, I mean *unconvicted inmates* of Guantanamo Bay up there. The only problem would be... if they formed an alliance with some race of super aliens, converted them to Islam and launched a huge attack from the Red Planet. Hmm, I must stop seeing the world as some sort of B movie script. I'll end up a politician at this rate.. : (
Has anyone here mentioned planet terraforming yet? I read somewhere a while back that people are already working on something like that right now. I found this article just now about terraforming: Scientist Calls Mars a Terraforming Target for the 21st Century From: http://www.space.com/3993-scientist-calls-mars-terraforming-target-21st-century.html I'd go help if I could. We might need a back-up planet to go to in case Earth blows up, right?
Haha! Actually idk if it would be cheaper...are the applicants being paid? Will there be a monetary system in the colony? Who knows, maybe it'll end up being a B reality show after all?
Ha! Kind of along the lines what I was thinking... Sounds like some governments are in cahoots to get these people to sign away their lives so they can perform various operations on them in an underground base with various technologies turning them into cyborgs.
I know someone that works for NASA. I just got a tour of Goddard this fall, those guys are working with a shoestring budget from what I could see. I've seen Pep Boys garages that were in better shape. The U.S space program consumes less than 1% of the Federal budget each year. Here are some of the benefits: Solar power, forest, fish, and wildlife management, oil spill control, waste conversion to edible plants, environmental controls, improved air conditioning and purification, sewage treatment, pollution control and measuring devices, cordless power tools, home smoke detectors, home water purification systems, scratch resistant lenses,, high-density batteries, trash compactors, shock-absorbing helmets, home security systems, composite golf clubs, smoke detectors, flat panel televisions, freeze-dried technology, sports bras, hang gliders, quartz crystal timing equipment, (CCD) chips for digital imaging breast biopsies, laser angioplasty, cameras on a chip, virtual reality, microcomputers, advanced keyboards, laser surveying, compact discs, database management systems, aircraft controls, ground processing scheduling, global consciousness, plastic-like metals, LASIK surgery, polymer heat management materials, on and on. Check it out here, see the archives. And here is David Brin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fahfcPfMMVw"]Grand-Scale reasons to Explore Space: How we all benefit - YouTube I say we go for it.
I know it is a private endeavor but it will involve the U.S. space program in that they will be using material and knowledge generated in part by NASA. Some in this thread are questioning the validity of space exploration and I am pointing out the many benefits for the small amount of funds consumed, at least by NASA.
I say scrap the program and its multi-billion dollar price tag and just give everyone a mars bar :2thumbsup: Hotwater