what are you scared of

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by saffronfrancisburnet, Sep 28, 2004.

  1. hippychrome

    hippychrome Member

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    + Saffron. another thing you are right about about the poverty in the western countries. + also, more things, all religious people are bickering about is about the name of the creator. There are so many religious wars out there just cos of a bloody name. If people decided to accept the creator as the same + didn't bicker about the name, then religion wouldn't be a problem war wise. But Global greed for oil + resources are 1 of the big problems + child slavery sweatshops is also problem to feed the global eating machine.

    Anyway, love to all you hippie friends
    HC
     
  2. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Well actually what you should fear, is the day some devout moslem drives down main street with a nuke on the back seat of his rented chevy van.
     
  3. saffronfrancisburnet

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    thanks for reading my words

    i have a little something to add

    The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class
    struggles.
    freeman and slave,patrician and plebeian lord and serf.guild-master and journeyman, in a word ,oppressor and oppressed,stood in constant opposition to one and other,carried on an uninterrupted ,now hidden now open fight, a fight that each time ended,either in a revolutionary reconstitution of a society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.............

    in the earlier epochs of history,we find almost everywhere a complicated arrangement of society into various orders, a manifold gradation of social rank. in anciant ROME we have patricians,knights,plebians,slaves.in the middle ages,feudal lords,vassavls,guild-masters,journeymen.apprentices,serfs..in almost all of these classes again,subordinate gradations.
    therefor.......
    the modern bourgeois society that has sprouted from the ruins of feudal society has not done away with class antagonisms...it has but established new classes ,new conditions of oppression, new forms of struggle in place of the old ones....

    for more onfo read karl marx and friedrich engles,,,,

    but here you have the perfect reminder that this war is one that a society
    like todays has control of the poorer classes over any direction they take this war in,,,,
    thank you again for reading.
    yes we have poverty in the west ,
    bad schooling systems health care going to pot
    this is our doing and the east havent had a chance to even see our society at its worst....so whos to blame ......us or all the human race..

    love n peace to those alive,,
    saff
     
  4. hippychrome

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    A few last words I can spare before i have to go. Yes you are right in many ways, + its just human greed and the beings that control this experement on this planet that are to blaim. But hopefully one day soon, rescue shall happen + we will be at peace. But that is just our physical forms, our spiritual selves live forever :) . But when we get back there, we are not but 1 current consciousness, we merge with our being as a whole in which we are anway, merged as one, call it a super conscious if you must. But many lives we have lived and we are as a WHOLE, so BE that BEING as one + as a WHOLE :)
     
  5. iscreamchocolate

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    lets see... I'm scared of war, nazis, hitler, riding my bike on the road, airplanes flying above me as well as helicopters (in fear it's related to war), racism, my future, myself (sometimes).
     
  6. hippychrome

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    And another stray soul I find. Anyway, I Skream, fear not a thing love, as when it comes to the crunch, we are all immortal :) . Our spirit survives forever more :)

    + as seeing your sign off babe. Think this way maybe? Swimming through pools of Ether that my mind resides within, shifting through the being + creation of all I now do confirm... love + light will me mine, a mixture of life + light is my being itself from the divine :) . And that is for all, Love + peace be for all x
     
  7. saffronfrancisburnet

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    thank you
    how to be whole to be free to
    complete the cycle of peace
    the nature of the human mind
    its will to survive
    the nature of the human heart
    to love,....
    then the soul will be whole
    from the last life to the next
    we change we create we
    live to be whole,

    if only a world so full
    of thought would hold the
    apin of many hearts..
    then peace would fall
    upon this earth a peace
    for mind and all...
    thank you for reading
    {the only thing we have to fear
    is fear its self } one quote that rings true
    for it turns to misunderstanding and then anger.........
    ie the wars we never see stop.......
    love n peace to all
    be your selves
    laugh if you need...
    from saff
    maybe the stars have thrown to light the
    signs who want to rule this world.....
     
  8. hippychrome

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    Saffy, that was beautiful + true :)
     
  9. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    How many times has that happened in the US compared to the reported number of abuses of the partiot act? (Ignoring the complaints where people think the gov't is intercepting their dreams..i read about those the other day...funny stuff)
     
  10. saffronfrancisburnet

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    sear and all

    why fear what had become the norm
    one god for another
    until we open our hearts to change
    in veiws towards these wars in 2004
    then a million years of wars will
    tell our future.from before
    i am not sure if i believe a muslim
    or someone else will be my downfall
    but i know the love as an earth
    will throw this hate aside..one day

    not dreams an idea a belief..
    dreams reflect and show in ways
    i do not yet understand
    but ideas grow change
    and most of all soon
    dissapear and a new idea forms
    yet a dream can last a life time....

    understand the earth its fruit
    for all,,we must share and be as one
    then the dream shall be the idea
    that changes a system which
    allows hunger and war...still

    sorry to blag
    love n peace to you all
    from saff
     
  11. BlackGuardXIII

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    Well, you can cross Hitler off your list, he's been dead for decades, though maybe his ghost is scary. I am only afraid of one thing right now, and that is seeing a loved one get badly injured. I can handle all the other BS.
     
  12. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Sera, you are on my wave length. I think Campbell is getting his religious terrorists mixed up.
    The van with the big bomb was driven by that Christian terrorist, TIm McVeigh.
    Funny how they didn't put headlines on every newspaper that read "Christian Terrorist Blows up Building!", since they always point out if its a Muslim.....
     
  13. saffronfrancisburnet

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    thank you for replying to this

    why do we adjust from one lets say evil to another
    through out time we have allowed many a man
    to turn his dreams ideas into murder

    to change this we need world wide living standeds
    for all and fair.......

    end class struggle which causes many problems
    turns people against people who have more
    just like what or whos god said what first.....

    we should be very scared of what the human race as a
    whole can do
    under lets say someone idea like hitler
    there are too many men who have caused wars
    because of these factors.... and still we watch...
    how many of the workers could strike
    world wide strike ..this would halt the system
    which allows the fight..against differences....
    how many of us could stop the world the race...
    and understanding well the lack of it has created war...

    never has the earth seen peace one war for peace
    then another war..i think the governments
    should have worked it out by now..we have our own
    lifes to live what ever we believe ...they should not force
    so called western way on anyone.never mind get young men
    to kill in war is this not murder
    ..you should not kill......
    maybe they have forgotten we are not blind.we are not stupid..

    call upon many a man and you will see its the misunderstandings
    that they become angry and want more......
    remember your needs thats all i need to say

    for all the need to live ...

    and i fear that war will be never ending unless
    we end everything ...in this western system...
    love n peace from saff

    i wonder how many american and british governments
    will hound other worlds until they are needed for a new war.

    ie didnt we fight the germans...the evil
    then russia the evil
    now iraq the evil
    china tibet everywhere we have created death.by misunderstanding their ways.
    i say lets join and leave them who wish war to fly to the moon...\

    we need to dance on this earth not run from guns bombs and the human fear of others.....
     
  14. hippychrome

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    And for the quickest way, every human being could threaten to refuse to breed,
    thus a peaceful planet and back to nature it would truly be.
     
  15. saffronfrancisburnet

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    hi there

    how peaceful yet alone
    so breeding is part of living..

    nature is truely beautiful like human kind if we allow

    but in nature true we are spoiling all...

    i agree man but also we have the right to breed i suppose
    its in our nature....

    as you mentioned before you would like kids man
    but to pass on the better side of life is what matters
    to teach about life and let children grow in to loving adults if it is possible
    i hope we all see past these wars not just in the mind and heart and soul of a person
    but in the world as a whole we need peace the human race
    is not around for long in one life or the last or next
    so we should provide nautre with love ..

    love n peace man
    be free to love ....
    from saff.
     
  16. Bug_Man

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    You are missing some capitalizations in your statements, Grammar Police!
     
  17. saffronfrancisburnet

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    no i dont miss capitalizisms...

    i miss peace .....

    sorry had to say im very blunt and grammar to me
    is the icing after peace has come and we eat free............

    but hay with a constant hassle over words well
    maybe its the rebel in me my mother is a english drama teacher
    with a drama company so maybe its the constant
    hassle i got off of my mum so what the hell.
    my children need i say more often hassle me too about this ...
    so yes you are right about the english language
    but thats not really the point it is
    its the lack of understanding thats caused war..
    class divide will force war
    no education will cause war
    no love will cause war
    so peace to you again....

    peace with you and your words

    love n peace from saff
    no i dont turn the other cheek
    i stand there just looking at you.......
     
  18. hippychrome

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    Direct into the eyes I do agree + stare thy opponent out + you shall see the truth that be [​IMG].

    On to Grammar. E.G no love will cause war? U mean that ' LOVE shall not cause war ' ETC + so forth [​IMG] '. ( Seems the same but a different possitive there be [​IMG] ). Grammar police, English true, on everyones side ROTFL.

    Love + peace be with you all, ( But that is just my own personal interpretation of part of the above lol ).

    B.T.W Saffy, Bug man wuz on about someone else + not you I think,
    but anyway, I do agree that no matter what is written,
    from the heart it comes + even in local dialect / + local lingo,
    it all still rings true [​IMG]
     
  19. saffronfrancisburnet

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    so after the usa elections and uk backing the usa


    we have just the voters hand the world to america
    with the uk sort of there enjoying the profits and products
    of other countries through bloody war ...

    how long will we see this
    war is a capitalist venture........

    why do people vote these people in
    wake up.....make a stand and change the system...


    so you made mr bush a remembered man for war...
    like mr blair our grandchildren will be reading about
    this like we all did about the second world war in school.....

    so maybe you all feel its unsafe no we have the resources
    to survive .......but the iraq chidren have to play
    in blasted holes while the western child only sees the effects on tv.....
    so who lives better from these sorts of wars..

    just my opinion love n peace from saff
     
  20. hippychrome

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    Sometimes, I'm scared of just life.
     
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