WHAT are you currently ingesting?

I'm eating a bowl of cucumber, tomato, snap peas, mushrooms and bell pepper with vegan ground turkey mixed in... salt, sriracha, cumin and turmeric as seasoning. washing it down with sierra nevada. took a morphine sulfate earlier so I am feeling niicee.

 

vegan ground turkey huh? have you ever had one of those tofurkey things peta is always harping on about? i half want to try it and half want to run away screaming.

 

no don't think so... it's yves brand, I like yves betta than tofurkey.

 

I don't get the point of fake-meat.
I get the point from a nutritional standpoint, but if you won't eat meat, what is the point of eating meat shaped things with a replicating flavor?

 

what do you mean?

it is more environmentally sound, generally healthier, and you can use it as a substitution in recipes that call for meat. Personally I like it better than meat because it's not full of blood.

 

I suppose I mean from the perspective of moral vegans, not so much for the health benefits.
The whole 'meat is murder' thing, I weren't going to eat meat for such reasons, I would feel equally uncomfortable eating a similar looking or tasting thing. If that makes sense...
Like wearing fur- if you wouldn't wear real fur, why would you support wearing it by using fake fur?

Then comes the perspective of 'meat is icky' vegans (which makes most sense to me), I still don't get it. If real meat is gross, fake meat should bring up the same feelings.



Probably horribly skewed logic, but that is my opinion

 

How is it more enviromentally sound and generally healthier? tofu isn't that great for you and meat consumption is some what built into us. Well in reality its fish and bone marrow but still..tofu isn't a natural plant to eat, its been bred into civility, and now you're eating something that is engineered to appear to be meat. Nothing natural about that...very processed...many people worked on it, wide variety of origins of ingredients.

I'd wonder what the ecological foot print of fake meat is, pound for pound.

That reminds me, a large dog has a larger environmental foot print than a SUV.

 

Agreed sarah..

 

and im ingesting water. well processed and filtered water. lots of chemicals required to get the chemicals out...ahh reversing the civilisation's technological efforts with even more technology. the irony is livid!

 

http://www.good.is/post/is-owning-a-dog-worse-than-owning-an-suv/

 

i don't think that ethical vegans are necessarily any more squeamish than anyone else. they don't consume animal products because they believe that to do so is ethically unsound, not because they think it's icky. there are a lot of vegans who like the taste of meat, so attempting to reproduce that taste in a vegan food makes perfect sense.

 

There were two classifications in my post- the ethical ones and the grossed out by meat ones.


In my mind- if you like meat, eat meat.
If you don't, don't. Simple

 

oh, sorry

well i guess the 'grossed out by meat' ones probably don't eat fake meats.

i personally don't think that tofu or tempeh really fall into the category of fake meat though (not sure whether anyone actually said that they did, just an observation).. i don't know any animals that look or taste anything like tofu.

 

I agree that they are fine foods in meals alone, without the flavoring of meat or the look of it, which sends me back to my original thought process.


mmmmmmm tempeh...

 

sarah: I don't like the taste of real meat. Like I said, blood. simple as that. I do like the taste of fake meat. tastes like lean protein, and I can use it in all the best recipes.

lost: of course studies are slanted and show different things, but like your big dog, it costs much more energy to feed an animal for slaughter, except maybe in the most inhumane conditions

I actually do not eat much fake meat anyway (these grounds are tasty and were on sale) and tend to eat beans/corn/legumes and sometimes eggs/cheese for protein. I do like vegan cheese and vegenaise for sammiches. vegan cheese melts great and has soy protein, which I love the flavor of, and vegenaise is made with grapeseed oil which has natural antioxidants.

as far as "health" goes, fake meat is MUCH leaner than regular meat. I know these veg sausages I bought before have 97% less fat than your run of the mill nastly lil sizzlin pork thing.

I do love veggie burgers, but veg burgs don't taste anyting like real burgs. only reason I liked burgers before I went veg was all the veggies on them

 

I just gotta say... your logic may make sense to you, but I really, really really don't like the taste of beef or pork, yet I really like veggie sausages... so take from that what you will. It just isn't the same... it's like, meat for people who don't like meat. Variety. for people who don't like eating dead animals.

 

I am eating seafood sausage (Thank you Trader Joe's) chopped up and sauteed with onion, mushrooms, bell pepper and zucchini and in a marinara sauce, with a salad with sliced strawberries marinated in Soy Vey dressing. Yum!

Oh, and I am a pescitarian-vegan. So vegan with the addition of fish & seafood (But without gluten, or soy or refined sugar) Being vegan with a soy allergy means I need a protein source, and fish/seafood is actually quite healthy as far as protein goes. And it doesnt destroy the rainforest

 

awesome I am kinda like this though like I said I eat cheese when I go out to eat and have eggs every now and then too when I'm really hungry. It's really healthy to eat unprocessed food, so I try to stick to veggies and very occasional eggs or fish. I'm lactose intolerant so that kinda helps

pesco-vegans are more common than you'd think i guess...

 

Zilla I am mostly referring to companies that try and exactly recreate the taste and look of real meat. My brother got this fake chicken, and he could only eat a few bites because not only did it look just like chicken it tastes exactly the same as well. It simply grossed him out, because he doesn't like the taste of real meat. So I am talking about fake meat that attempts to exactly replicate these dead animals.


Eh. you know.
didn't mean to start a big conversation on it

 

Haha well.. it is the food thread.

and I sympathize cause I got this ground "beef" and I can't eat it. it looks like... beef. blech.