What are future energy sources? The best alternatives for fossil fuels

why can't you make a peretual motion vehicle, I mean, it seems to me all you need is a stronger charging source than power your using, right, so why can't you get an electric motor, some big and state of the art batteries, then have multiple charging units all over the car, like on the wheels, for example, while the car is rolling, it's charging, then get some electric fans so when they turn from the wind, they as well can charge the car, it seems viable to me, by the way if anybody does make this car, I want the first one for free!!!!

 

Sounds perfectly logical to me. But it's all been tried and doesn't work
in the real world. It's more complex than it seems. You've got the battery
pushing the car through the air which makes the wind (except in weather
that you shouldn't be driving in with storm force winds). You drain more
from the battery to do that than you make from the wind that is generated.

So the battery runs down. Faster than it would if you did't have that
fan creating more air resistance.

But that's all beside the point, really. We have got to get over this
silly idea that there will someday be an Earth-friendly car.

That'll happen about the time someone invents a peaceful
automatic weapon.

Some things are just not possible. Whether you like it or not!

LIttlefoot

 

basicly the integration of EVERYTHING onto the grid, that DIDN'T involve burning anything. in addition to wind, solar and SMALL SCALE hydro, UP IN THE HILLS, it turns out geothermal is a lot more available and viable then i would have immagined, or at least thats the impression i'm getting from what i've been learning lately.

there might even, for a time, be a roll for nukes, but it would not, will not likely at any rate anyway, ever get to be a very major one, for all the reasons it isn't the panacea its cheerleaders would like us to imagine.

but the roll of combustion WILL diminish as the availability of commercial scale fuel stocks does likewise. i only wish people, policy planers, could and would see clearly enough, not having their eyes dazzled and distracted by little green pieces of paper, to put much more urgency into making that transition away from them more dramaticly then at present, without waiting of nature and markets to force them to do so.

i wish this for the simple reason that we may be committing the collective suicide of all life, including our own, by failing to do so. i know there's a ghost of a chance it might not be that bad, but there's also an even greater one that it might be a lot worse then our current best estimates too.

not to mention the advantages for ordinary people and other living things in doing so anyway. like air we can breathe, restoration of fish stocks and so on.

for mechanized transportation, primarily some sort, or a multiplicity of sorts, of stored energy, again recharged of that to be more cleanly fed distribution grid. the pie in the sky of fuel cells might work for small scale public transit, in a few specific and narrow contexts, but at any rate, the car as we know it now, isn't going to remain practical, simultanious with insuring humanity's survival as a species, or even the web of life itself.

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Compressed Air Technology is also an alternative fuel source for transportation! I seen this on Environmental Tech on the History Channel last night! Yes, that's right, cars that run off of AIR !!!

A family van, work van, work pickup, and a taxi will soon be available to the open market!

Ha, ha, ha........... watch this revolution.......... !!! You read it first here at the hipforums!!!

www.theaircar.com

 

There will be an Earth-friendly car when there's a peaceful weapon of
mass destruction.

So someone is using energy to compress air which is then used
to run a compressed air motor. Like the tools at any modern
garage.

This isn't revolutionary, it is silly.

Littlefoot

 

So what is your solution for alternative energy?

Peace and love

 

Littlefoot, point taken, but powerplants produce energy more efficiently than do fossil fuel burning automobiles becuase the energy is mass produced. Less green house gas would be produced to fill up compressed air cars, or charge electric cars.

I'd prefer to fill up such a car with solar produced energy. Yet, I understand that this will not be an option for the majority.

You are right Littlefoot, cars are evil, no matter what energy sourse is used to propel them. How about car-free living? Really, I'm reading about car-free living also.

 

Hi RawAndNatural,

We need to create a world that doesn't require cars. This
one does. It has been designed around them. Just going
to mass transit won't work because the resulting unemploy-
ment and loss of investment income to pension and other
retirement funds would cause a depression.

But cars obviously have to go. That means rebuilding
society from scratch, basically.

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Not so very long ago, only the very wealthy had carriages at
their beck and call, 24-7.

Now only the very wealthy, the Middle Class and above, who
are the elite of the world economy, have a carriage at their
beck and call, 24-7. But these carriages require hundreds of
times the environmental destruction that the old ones did.
And hundreds of times the labor.

The private automobile is the most subsidized product that
has ever existed. If people had to pay their real fair
share of the cost of producing their vehicles, fuel, and
roads, then only what WE call the super-rich would have
them.

Where is the money to subsidize cars ultimately coming from?
Exploitation of poor people around the world, massive
borrowing (look at the national debt), and at the expense
of other species whose habitats are trashed.

Littlefoot

 

A NON-destructive hydro technology is called the "SEADOG Wave pump". It harnesess wave energy to pump water into a reservoir that when released runs through turbines creating power. Google the term and you will find many articles on it. The main website is www.inri.us.

Based on results, they stated that a 104 square mile grid of these pumps could power the world power grid.

Desalinization plants are going to use this as a way to eliminate huge costs and can make this technology an incredible resource in that way alone.

This is an excellent example of how technology can be used in unity with the environment. The pump is designed so that sea creatures remain unharmed and are able to actually use it as a habitat.

Article and video with inventor and exec.
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/p...n=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.9.1

YouTube video of lab-prototype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buVkCBZLRQ8

It also is easily manipulated to compress air

 

If we used water for energy, eventually we would run out of water also. Wait, maybe we could find a way to turn oil into water. Problem solved rejoice!!!

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Yes. When the wind turns a turbine, it turns a magnet which in turn creates the A/C power. The wind is the source of the power, not the magnet.