We've covered School shootings. Now lets tackle Chicago.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by NotMyRealName, Mar 8, 2018.

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  1. NotMyRealName

    NotMyRealName Member

    Pretty lengthy thread of the recent rash of Mass School shootings and a lot of points have been made.

    Lets change the area of concern with this one.

    In Chicago as of March 4, 2018 there have been 370 shooting victims. So far this year. Last year for the whole year they had 540 total.

    Tracking Chicago shooting victims

    Or for an alternative CNN version of it. Which is even more staggering.

    Chicago sees drop in murders and shootings in January - CNN

    So how do we stop this madness?
     
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  2. NoHobo

    NoHobo Member

    Easy. Deport the African Americans. Problem fixes itself.
     
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  3. NoHobo

    NoHobo Member

    Ehh... I mean... ehh... throw millions of tax dollars into inner-city education programs that will hopefully somehow change the inherently violent inner city black culture in like 20 generations.
     
  4. Ged

    Ged Actually my name is Slavoj HipForums Supporter

    Thermo Nuclear war. Then reincarnate on Krishna Loka. Repent ye sinners, the future is high.
     
  5. Ged

    Ged Actually my name is Slavoj HipForums Supporter

    Confusion is sexy. But not in this case.
     
  6. NoHobo

    NoHobo Member

    Confusion will be my epitaph.

    But not in this case.
     
  7. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

    Just what we need. Another racist troll to waste our time. Don't feed him, and maybe he'll crawl back under his rock.
     
  8. NoHobo

    NoHobo Member

    Nothing racist here. It's a proven fact that by far most of the gun violence in Chicago is perpetuated by African Americans.

    In Chicago, A Stark Racial Disparity In Gun Violence

    This is very much a racial issue... but because I bring it up doesn't make me racist.
     
  9. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

    The majority of rapists are white. You advocate deporting white men to solve that problem?
     
  10. NotMyRealName

    NotMyRealName Member

    OK wait. If the population is say 90% of a certain race then it stands to reason that it will be that race that commits the most crimes. I don't know the population demographics of Chicago. Further I don't know yet how that compares with similar demographic of another racial majority in another city. So I'm not going to say that we can agree with you at this point. I didn't say we won't. I just think we need to let this shape into data that was can use as we discuss the solutions.

    And as your link does discuss that the population of blacks is declining I think we can start to go from there to see what the picture looks like compared to other examples I'm sure everyone will take the time to research.
     
  11. NoHobo

    NoHobo Member

    Well... here's some data for you, so that you can't say that you don't know that AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE STATISTICALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR BY FAR THE MOST VIOLENT CRIME AGAINST OTHER AFRICAN AMERICANS IN CHICAGO AND THE US AS A WHOLE.

    https://www.usnewsc.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

    About 90% of black people nationwide are killed by other black people.

    Chicago's demographics, which you could have easily googled yourself instead of claiming ignorance:

    Demographics of Chicago - Wikipedia

    32% black. Which parts of Chicago do you think most crime is centered at? Take a wild guess.
     
  12. NotMyRealName

    NotMyRealName Member

    Yes I have heard of the same statistics. But that usually has an explanation by those that find disagreement. So I'd like to see what other data can be presented that would lend itself into another direction.
     
  13. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

    I th9nk black people actually have a lot of privilege. Theyre allowed to complain about everything and call everyone racist and its ok. They can just do no wrong. And then the white people just stick up for them for some reason.

    Let me quote MLK: Judge not on the color of your skin, but on the content of your character.

    What that means is yoh dont just get a free pass because youre black. You still have to be a good person no matter what color yoh are. And if you are a good person, it doesnt matter what color you are.
     
  14. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

    Bears suck. Of they could Tackle maybe we see them in play-offs more oftened.:p
     
  15. Here is a census data tool. American FactFinder it uses zipcodes so here is a link to the zipcodes for chicago. what are the zip codes for chicago - Google Search There are 94. We can use the socioeconomic data about Chicago to draw conclusions about racial demography, household size, income, and other things like median age etc. It's interesting what you can learn about a place. And there is more information at the Bureau of Justice Statistics Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) - National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS)

    What are other ways we can study this topic?

    EDIT: I'm wrong about it only taking zipcodes. You can type in "chicago" and it works just fine. Nevermind about the zipcodes.
     
  16. Meliai

    Meliai Evenstar

    So much for an intelligent,thoughtful conversation on the socioeconomical factors at play here

    It must be because they're black and therefore inherently violent, eh
     
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  17. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

    I get this reference!

    My partner is a huge Bears fan. Apparently we went to college with someone who eventually played with them or something.
     
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  18. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

    Ever noticed black violence is usually crime related? Gang violence, holding up stores, stuff like that. But with white people, it's like cannibalism, killing their own kids, really fucked up shit?

    That's got to mean something.
     
  19. Meliai

    Meliai Evenstar

    Shhh you're not supposed to say anything bad about white people here. The victimized white males will start whining

    But yeah absolutely. White people are the ones who do the really psychotic crimes
     
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  20. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

    We should send them all back to Europe.
     
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