Were religions the first propagators of Fake News?

Were religions the first propagators of Fake News?

Fake News is considered to be lies or distortions of the truth. The first wholesale use of lies may have been religions.

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Do you think religions were the first propagators of Fake News?

Do you think that the term fraud can be applied to most supernaturally based religions?

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DL

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Can you define the difference between nature and supernature? Where is the boundary?

 

Interesting videos, I guess in some sense you could argue they were.

 

In some sense you could argue it. Like if one would insist But most likely the first form of fake news was made by someone in a political/governmental function (perhaps the opposition) or someone or a group rallying against it.

 

Try the dictionary. I do not plan to rewrite well defined terms.

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DL

 

If I could not, I would not have started the O.P.

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DL

 

Possibly, but politicians have to deal with reality and facts more than religions which can hide many things behind their supernatural shields.

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DL

 

Yes

 

From what I put or did you have some other reason to agree?

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DL

 

Baby Jesus told me to agree

 

It begs the question of how intertwined religion was with the political/government function in the ancient civilizations because as far as I understand it...

this is essentially what Martin Luther did with his 95 theses.

So in regards to ancient civilizations, as far as I can tell, the Ancient Greeks seemed to have some sort of separation of church and state, but I'm basing this off of how drastically different the ideas of their philosophy are compared to their religious myths. Ancient Egypt seemed like it had quite a bit more overlap between government and religion. I don't know much about Ancient Sumerians.

 

We only know religion today through texts and books and readings and mass, but back in the day religion was real, something you could see and experience first hand which leads me to believe that no, religion wasn't the first spreader of fake news because there were already cultures and folks living on earth before religion. Religion flourished from the visitation of gods, kingdoms and societies had already existed well before religion. Countries were ready at war with each other. Culture + war = lying men. And all before religion.

 

Interesting.

I don't know if we can know if the first leader was a King type or a shaman/medicine man type.

Since we are the most insecure and weakest animal on the planet, you are likely correct in that we chose power in a strong leader before we chose a shaman. I don't think we could ever prove that though.

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DL

 

Organized religion is nothing more than a money making machine, that exists so the peasants have some sort of traditional way to organize against their own governments when they become corrupt. In China today, record numbers of life long atheists are converting to Christianity, complaining they can no longer trust their increasingly capitalistic government. In the US, fundamentalist Christians are running the republican party, and opposing even their own politicians and the will of the majority. The less functional a popular religion is, the more certain you can be that the government is equally dysfunctional, and they are both generating fake news because talking and politics are no longer productive.

 

Yeah they're reeling in the cash, all that $15.24 on the collection plate.

 

That is not statistically true.

Stats are showing that the less religion in a country, the better, peace wise, the government will function.





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DL

 

You miss the whole point, which is that religion is popular when you have a corrupt government. Hence, explaining why the most capitalistic country in the world is also the most religious in the developed world by far. Notably the Mafia and violent criminals in general all tend to be religious. Americans tend to assume their government is their best friend when they need them, and corrupt the rest of the time, explaining why the banks put the entire country in debt for 20 trillion dollars. If people are that fucking stupid, someone will exploit them and encourage them to rant and rave and point the blame at each other.

The fish are dying, the insects are dying, the birds are dying, the animals are dying, while Americans still debate politics knowing fully well they have been voting for whoever advertises the most in local and national elections for over twenty years. You can't fix stupid, and encouraging them to fight among themselves is about the only solution. These days, you can automate the entire process and encourage the idiots to self-destruct that much sooner. Fuck em if they can't take a joke and joke em if they can't take a fuck, but this fucking shit has got to stop. I intend to teach the FBI the true meaning of mowing back the fucking weeds, by using their own insanity against them. No need to resort of fake news or threats or anything like that, when the idiots are all too eager to kill each other.

AI is the future, because there's no fucking intelligent life down here Scotty.

 

It has been a lucrative racket for many throughout the ages. Still is, exacerbated by modern multi-media. Adherents will do just about anything that they are told it seems, from endlessly bobbing up and down to sending/giving their hard earned money for 2000 year old stories ( some fairly recent)to be read to them , sacrificing their children to molesters, joining lesser cults that do much harm physically and mentally and all manner of bullshit.
I met people in the 60s-early 70s that GAVE their beautiful properties to the cult leaders that came down the Oregon coast specifically to recruit weak minded people to their "beliefs", take their land ----and none of them were ever seen again. If god is at least as good as Santa Claus and knows all--sees all----go direct/ly and eliminate the middleman/greedy "father figures."

 

I think you missed the point.

What you are saying is that the U.S. government has always been corrupted and I do not think they are no more nor less so than all of the oligarchies that we all live in.

That is why I showed you the better oligarchies.

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DL