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  1. thefutureawaits

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    This is the situation. You are the creator of the earth and everything that resides on it.
    You create the first two human beings.
    They have everything. You made the sun that gives them warmth but does not burn them and it is placed exactly 93 million miles away. So, they have warmth and light. You have already planted every kind of vegetable and fruit for them to eat if they get hungry. You made them smart so they can plan things and make decisions about this and that. They are perfect and have no flaws but you give them a special attribute that no other creatures have except you and your friends the Angels.
    Can you guess that attribute...freewill
    Now they have everything that you provided for them, they know you well , just as a son or daughter knows their father and you decide that you want to test them. To see if they will listen and obey what you say. You want to make it easy, you love them, you created them.
    The test is this. You tell them. I have given you many variations of food. Eat all that you want and enjoy, but see that tree over there, don't eat from that, that is the tree of knowledge of good and bad, do not eat from that tree cause if you do, you will die.
    Some time goes by and you find out they ate from the tree that you told them about...they disobeyed you. A simple test as natural as eating..

    What would you do?
     
  2. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    so is incest okay?
     
  3. thefutureawaits

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    What do you mean?
     
  4. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    ethically speaking, is fucking your sister okay?
     
  5. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    Time out always worked in my home. :)
     
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    tldr
     
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  7. Heat

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    I read the whole book! ;)
     
  8. thefutureawaits

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    It was three paragraphs. You got time for Brazilian she male porn but no time to read my important post. I am disappointed.
     
  9. thefutureawaits

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    I know where your going with this. The human family is all related in some way if you want to get technical. I am sure that the brother and sister of the first human couple had sex to procreate. To start humanity, it had to be done. She probably had nice boobs and him a gigantic penis.
     
  10. AceK

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    hmm, so what would I do when a thing I have designed doesnt behave as intended. surely it must be the things fault ... or maybe its the cheap chinese parts i used, or maybe i should rtfm more. of course its really my fault and only mine ... learn from my mistakes a do better next time.
     
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  11. thefutureawaits

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    Do you understand freewill?
     
  12. thefutureawaits

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    Time out would not work in this situation
     
  13. NoxiousGas

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    No, no, no, you got it all wrong.

    Questioner: Thank you. Can you tell me of the earliest, first known thing in the creation?
    Ra: I am Ra. The first known thing in the creation is infinity. The infinity is creation.
    13.6 Questioner: From this infinity then must have come what we experience as creation. What was the next step or the next evolvement?
    Ra: I am Ra. Infinity became aware. This was the next step.
    13.7 Questioner: After this, what happened?
    Ra: Awareness led to the focus of infinity into infinite energy. You have called this by various vibrational sound complexes, the most common to your ears being “Logos” or “Love.” The Creator is the focusing of infinity as an aware or conscious principle called by us as closely as we can create understanding/learning in your language, intelligent infinity.
    13.8 Questioner: Can you state the next step?
    Ra: The next step is still at this space/time nexus in your illusion achieving its progression as you may see it in your illusion. The next step is an infinite reaction to the creative principle following the Law of One in one of its primal distortions, freedom of will. Thus many, many dimensions, infinite in number, are possible. The energy moves from the intelligent infinity due first to the outpouring of randomized creative force, this then creating patterns which in holographic style appear as the entire creation no matter which direction or energy is explored. These patterns of energy begin then to regularize their own local, shall we say, rhythms and fields of energy, thus creating dimensions and universes.
    13.9 Questioner: Then can you tell me how [the] galaxy and this planetary system were formed?
    Ra: I am Ra. You must imagine a great leap of thought in this query, for at the last query the physical, as you call, it, universes were not yet born.

    The energies moved in increasingly intelligent patterns until the individualization of various energies emanating from the creative principle of intelligent infinity became such as to be co-Creators. Thus the so-called physical matter began. The concept of light is instrumental in grasping this great leap of thought as this vibrational distortion of infinity is the building block of that which is known as matter, the light being intelligent and full of energy, thus being the first distortion of intelligent infinity which was called by the creative principle.

    This light of love was made to have in its occurrences of being certain characteristics, among them the infinite whole paradoxically described by the straight line, as you would call it. This paradox is responsible for the shape of the various physical illusion entities you call solar systems, galaxies, and planets, all revolving and tending towards the lenticular.
    13.10 Questioner: I think I made an error in asking that question, getting ahead of the process that [you were] describing. Would it be helpful to fill in that great leap that I mistakenly made?
    Ra: I am Ra. I attempted to bridge the gap. However, you may question me in any manner you deem appropriate.
    13.11 Questioner: Could you tell me— taking the question previous to the one that I asked about galaxy and planets, would you tell me the next step that occurred after that step?
    Ra: I am Ra. The steps, as you call them, are, at the point of question, simultaneous and infinite.
    13.12 Questioner: Could you tell me how intelligent infinity became, shall we say (I’m having difficulty with some of the language), how intelligent infinity became individualized from itself?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is an appropriate question.

    The intelligent infinity discerned a concept. This concept was discerned due to freedom of will of awareness. This concept was finity. This was the first and primal paradox or distortion of the Law of One. Thus the one intelligent infinity invested itself in an exploration of many-ness. Due to the infinite possibilities of intelligent infinity there is no ending to many-ness. The exploration, thus, is free to continue infinitely in an eternal present.
    13.13 Questioner: Was the galaxy that we are in created by the infinite intelligence or was it created by a portion of the individualized infinite intelligence?
    Ra: I am Ra. The galaxy and all other things of material of which you are aware are products of individualized portions of intelligent infinity. As each exploration began, it, in turn, found its focus and became co-Creator. Using intelligent infinity each portion created an universe and allowing the rhythms of free choice to flow, playing with the infinite spectrum of possibilities, each individualized portion channeled the love/light into what you might call intelligent energy, thus creating the so-called natural laws of any particular universe.

    Each universe, in turn, individualized to a focus becoming, in turn, co-Creator and allowing further diversity, thus creating further intelligent energies regularizing or causing natural laws to appear in the vibrational patterns of what you would call a solar system. Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory natural laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.
    13.14 Questioner: Could you tell me how the individualized portion of intelligent infinity created our galaxy [inaudible] that the same portion created our planetary system and, if so, how this came about?
    Ra: I am Ra. We may have misperceived your query. We were under the distortion/impression that we had responded to this particular query. Would you restate the query?
    13.15 Questioner: Primarily, then, how the, shall we say, the planetary system that we are in now evolved— was it all created at once or was there first our sun created and this [inaudible] was created.
    Ra: I am Ra. The process is from the larger, in your illusion, to the smaller. Thus the co-Creator, individualizing the galaxy, created energy patterns which then focused in multitudinous focuses of further conscious awareness of intelligent infinity. Thus, the solar system of which you experience inhabitation is of its own patterns, rhythms, and so-called natural laws which are unique to itself. However, the progression is from the galaxy spiraling energy to the solar spiraling energy, to the planetary spiraling energy, to the experiential circumstances of spiraling energy which begin the first density of awareness or consciousness of planetary entities.
    15.21 Questioner: Well, in yesterday’s material you stated “we offer the Law of One, the solving of paradoxes.” You also mentioned earlier that the first paradox, or the first distortion I meant, was the distortion of free will. Could you tell me if there’s a sequence? Is there a first, second, third, fourth distortion of the Law of One?
    Ra: I am Ra. Only up to a very short point. After this point, the many-ness of distortions are equal one to another. The first distortion, free will, finds focus. This is the second distortion known to you as Logos, the Creative Principle or Love. This intelligent energy thus creates a distortion known as Light. From these three distortions come many, many hierarchies of distortions, each having its own paradoxes to be synthesized, no one being more important than another.
    15.22 Questioner: You also said that you offered the Law of One, which is the balancing of love/light and light/love. Is there any difference between love/light and light/love?
    Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final question of this time/space. There is the same difference between love/light and light/love as there is between teach/learning and learn/teaching. Love/light is the enabler, the power, the energy giver. Light/love is the manifestation which occurs when light has been impressed with love.
    16.22 Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we communicated with you, it was stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future… all is present. Would this be a good analogy?
    Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.
    16.23 Questioner: Does this mean that you would have awareness of all that is?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. It is our understanding that it would not be our awareness, but simply awareness of the Creator. In the Creator is all that there is. Therefore, this knowledge would be available.
    16.53 Questioner: All right. Continuing with what we were just talking about, namely densities: I understand then that each density has seven sub-densities which again have seven sub-densities which again have seven sub-densities. This expands at an extremely large rate as things are increased in powers of seven. Does this mean that in any density level anything that you can think of is happening? And many things that you never thought of are happening… are there… everything is happening… this is confusing…
    Ra: I am Ra. From your confusion we select the concept with which you struggle, that being infinite opportunity. You may consider any possibility/probability complex as having an existence.
    19.12 Questioner: This seems to be a carefully planned or engineered stage of development. Can you tell me anything of the origin of this plan for the development?
    Ra: I am Ra. We go back to previous information. Consider and remember the discussion of the Logos. With the primal distortion of free will, each galaxy developed its own Logos. This Logos has complete free will in determining the paths of intelligent energy which promote the lessons of each of the densities given the conditions of the planetary spheres and the sun bodies.
    19.20 Questioner: Well, this would seem then that there is a relationship then between what we perceive as physical phenomena, say the electrical phenomena, and the phenomena of consciousness, and that they, having stemmed from the One Creator, are practically identical but have slightly different actions as we [tape ends.] [Is this correct?]
    Ra: I am Ra. Again we oversimplify to answer your query.

    The physical complex alone is created of many, many energy or electromagnetic fields interacting due to intelligent energy; the mental configurations or distortions of each complex further adding fields of electromagnetic energy and distorting the physical complex patterns of energy; the spiritual aspect serving as a further complexity of fields which is of itself perfect but which can be realized in many distorted and unintegrated ways by the mind and body complexes of energy fields.

    Thus, instead of one, shall we say, magnet with one polarity you have in the body/mind/spirit complex one basic polarity expressed in what you would call violet-ray energy, the sum of the energy fields, but which is affected by thoughts of all kinds generated by the mind complex, by distortions of the body complex, and by the numerous relationships between the microcosm which is the entity and the macrocosm in many forms which you may represent by viewing the stars, as you call them, each with a contributing energy ray which enters the electromagnetic web of the entity due to its individual distortions.
    27.4 Questioner: Would you define the word intelligent in the concept of intelligent infinity?
    Ra: I am Ra. We shall address the entire spectrum of this question before defining as requested. Your language, using vibrational sound complexes, can be at best an approximation of that which is closer to an understanding, if you will, of the nature of conscious thought. Perceptions are not the same as sound vibration complexes and the attempt to define will therefore be a frustrating one for you, although we are happy to aid you within the limits of your sound vibration complexes.

    To define intelligent apart from infinity is difficult, for these two vibration complexes equal one concept. It is much like attempting to divide your sound vibration concept, faith, into two parts. We shall attempt to aid you however.
    27.5 Questioner: It is not necessary to divide it. The definition of intelligent infinity as one part is sufficient. Could you please now define intelligent infinity?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is exponentially simpler and less confusing. There is unity. This unity is all that there is. This unity has a potential and kinetic. The potential is intelligent infinity. Tapping this potential will yield work. This work has been called by us, intelligent energy.

    The nature of this work is dependent upon the particular distortion of free will which in turn is the nature of a particular intelligent energy or kinetic focus of the potential of unity or that which is all.
    27.6 Questioner: I’d like to expand a little on the concept of work. In Newtonian physics [the] concept of work is what we call a force which moves through space, it’s the product of force and distance as we measure it. I’m assuming that the work of which you speak is a much broader term including possibly work in consciousness. Am I correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. As we use this term it is universal in application. Intelligent infinity has a rhythm or flow as of a giant heart beginning with the central sun as you would think or conceive of this, the presence of the flow inevitable as a tide of beingness without polarity, without finity; the vast and silent all beating outward, outward, focusing outward and inward until the focuses are complete. The intelligence or consciousness of foci have reached a state where their, shall we say, spiritual nature or mass calls them inward, inward, inward until all is coalesced. This is the rhythm of reality as you spoke.
    27.7 Questioner: Now I think I have extracted an important point from this in that in intelligent infinity we have work without polarity, or a potential difference does not have to exist. Is this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. There is no difference, potential or kinetic, in unity. The basic rhythms of intelligent infinity are totally without distortion of any kind. The rhythms are clothed in mystery, for they are being itself. From this undistorted unity, however, appears a potential in relation to intelligent energy.

    In this way you may observe the term to be somewhat two-sided, one use of the term, that being as the undistorted unity, being without any kinetic or potential side. The other application of this term, which we use undifferentiatedly for lack of other term in the sense of the vast potential tapped into by foci or focuses of energy, we call intelligent energy.
    27.8 Questioner: Now, I understand that the first distortion of intelligent infinity is the distortion of what we call free will. Can you give me a definition of this distortion?
    Ra: I am Ra. In this distortion of the Law of One it is recognized that the Creator will know Itself.
    27.9 Questioner: Then am I correct then in assuming that the Creator will know Itself the Creator, then grants for this knowing the concept of freedom— total freedom of choice in the ways of knowing? Am I correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.
    27.10 Questioner: This then being the first distortion of the Law of One, which I [am] assuming is the Law of Intelligent Infinity, from all other— correction, all other distortions which are the total experience of the creation spring from this. Is this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is both correct and incorrect. In your illusion all experience springs from the Law of Free Will or the Way of Confusion. In another sense, which we are learning, the experiences are this distortion.
    27.11 Questioner: I will have to think about that and ask questions on it in the next session, so I will go on to what you have given me as the second distortion which is the distortion of love. Is this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
    27.12 Questioner: I would like for you to define love in the sense— in its sense as the second distortion.
    Ra: I am Ra. This must be defined against the background of intelligent infinity or unity or the One Creator with the primal distortion of free will. The term Love then may be seen as the focus, the choice of attack, the type of energy of an extremely, shall we say, high order which causes intelligent energy to be formed from the potential of intelligent infinity in just such and such a way. This then may be seen to be an object rather than an activity by some of your peoples, and the principle of this extremely strong energy focus being worshiped as the Creator instead of unity or oneness from which all Loves emanate.
    27.13 Questioner: Is Love— is there a manifestation of love that we could call vibration?
    Ra: I am Ra. Again we reach semantic difficulties. The vibration or density of love or understanding is not a term used in the same sense as the second distortion, Love; the distortion Love being the great activator and primal co-Creator of various creations using intelligent infinity; the vibration love being that density in which those who have learned to do an activity called “loving” without significant distortion, then seek the ways of light or wisdom. Thus in vibratory sense love comes into light in the sense of the activity of unity in its free will. Love uses light and has the power to direct light in its distortions. Thus vibratory complexes recapitulate in reverse the creation in its unity, thus showing the rhythm or flow of the great heartbeat, if you will use this analogy.
    27.15 Questioner: Then I will expand a bit more on this concept. We have the infinite vibration of Love which can occur, I am assuming, at varying frequencies, if this has a meaning in this; I would assume that it begins at one basic frequency. Does this have any meaning? Am I making sense? Is this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. Each Love, as you term the prime movers, comes from one frequency, if you wish to use this term. This frequency is unity. We would perhaps liken it rather to a strength than a frequency, this strength being infinite, the finite qualities being chosen by the particular nature of this primal movement.
    28.3 Questioner: This light that occurred as a consequence of vibration which is a consequence of Love. I am going to ask if that statement is right. Is that correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. This statement is correct.
     
  14. thefutureawaits

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    You could just kill the first couple and the instigator to solve the problem and start over. But then you would be a murderer and un just God. Plus your friends would see you do that and you would look like an idiot.
     
  15. MeAgain

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    I wouldn't call it actual free will as it is a biased type of free will.

    True free will would have no repercussions. After all if the choice is if you want to know the difference between good and evil you will die, what kind of choice is that. Additionally doesn't this presume that Adam and Eve would have to know the difference between good and evil in the first place to be able to understand the test? To eat the fruit defies God, which would be evil. To not eat the fruit is to submit to God which is good. So no matter what they do they would have to understand the consequences which implies they already know the difference between good and evil.
     
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    youre coming off as homophobic.. you should probably take your bigot door knocking religion elsewhere..
     
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    My father always had some sort of rule that I should follow without really understanding.

    Making the bed, ect...

    It's easy to ask "why God? Why?!" But God doesn't know either. He never even had a father...

    God just does things for no reason and is far more powerful than you.

    Just like dad.
     
  18. thefutureawaits

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    So, I should not post about religion in the religious forum?

    I am not homophobic at all
     
  19. Gongshaman

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    God doesn't have friends, only a flock...of sheep..le
     
  20. Mattekat

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    I am now god! Muahahaha ha can I be Satan instead actually?
     

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