Weed really is bad.

yours is the same reaction I had when I used to puff with this girl and afterward she said, "ok see ya I'm off to the gym." wtf?

idk, I don't have any cut-and-dry answers about that, and those who are more prone to exercise after toking appear to be in the minority.

I just think that it has to do with the dilation and focusing of senses. that property might amplify the desire to work out, idk.

here's an interesting article on it with various opinions. the first post is what I have in mind:

http://www.ukdynasty.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=990

I don't always want to work out or read after toking. sometimes I just want to veg out.

 

I get you burnabowl. I'm prolly more often than not in the veg out category, but there are times that I smoke and I want to work out, I want to skateboard, I want to write, I want to do all the things I love that I normally neglect.
And the way weed warps time, sometimes I can get my fill of all of them =P


Also, I want to say that people like the OP make me feel betrayed and angry. I will never turn against the leaf, even if I stop using.
I am aware that when I use in heavy amounts I feel less clear, I am aware that sometimes after a big binge, my anxiety symptoms get a tiny worse my first day of sobriety; but I'm also aware of the risks of using a drug. I don't go blaming that shit on the drug itself - it's all about how you use it.

These people are as bad as the government and the propagandists themselves for falling for their bullshit - you don't hear recovered alcoholics preaching the horrors of knocking a couple back on game day.

 

There are a lot of different points being made here with lots of partial truth in it. It's mostly opinions and personal experience from the looks of it. It's good if someone shares his personal views so why give the OP so much shit for making the mistake of blaming the weed? Yes, weed does has risks, and some are indeed being dumbed down by it. Lots of people also aren't. Some people like to do things when stoned, most like to chill. So fucking what.

 

I think the issue is that the OP is delivering his own personal opinion as fact... and that he has chosen to initiate an anti-marijuana crusade in this forum.... telling the members participating in a website whose objectives include legalization of marijuana that the laws criminalizing it are just and correct.... and delivering this message not in an "open for debate" manner but in a "this is fact, end of story" style that can only be calculated to putting people on the defensive.

In general this discussion can easily be construed as an attempt at drawing marijuana advocates into a verbal slug fest (trolling) and provoking behavior that "demonstrates" how out of control they are and I think many of the responses avoid that. The OP returns a number of times to tell folks that they are fooling themselves and spewing unadulterated anti-drug propaganda, lumping marijuana with heroin and cocaine. It certainly is his prerogative to make that association but it is dubious at best to state it as incontrovertible fact.

He has chosen to slander the theme of this site and frankly as long as the responses stay within guidelines he deserves what he gets.

 

Yes.

 

I read the first page and the jist of this conversation is in the first page, that is basically all the different arguements

Ya i agree with whoever says that the long term effects (and consecutive sequence of short term effects) vary from person to person. In my case it really demotivates me and I get paranoia decreased appetite, which is bad for me because I am already pretty skinny

I think the bigger picture here, which many of us are forgetting is that weed is a catalyst to an altered mindset, which is almost completely based upon one's environment
Someone who is depressed shouldn't smoke weed often(for some people it can help)
Someone who is very healthly, satisfied with their place in life and is being socially active will not suffer much at all from smoking a lot

I've smoked everyday for around two weeks and I was in a really good mood that whole time so the positives of being happy, relaxed and enthusiastic around my best friends outweighed the negatives
But than again today I feel like crap for various reasons and I shouldn't have smoked, but here I am

 

My feelings are that ABUSE of marijuana (or any other substance or drug for that matter) may make you stupid/have adverse affects on one's health. Smoking once a week I feel is fine. As other's have said, it is very subjective. It affects different people in different ways and it's often hard to predict it's effects, so I understand what the OP was saying.

 

ive smoked pot atleast twice a week since i was 15, i got into an advanced school for juniors and seniors, we took AP core classes and all other classes at the community college, i pulled A's and B's save a 79 in CHM1045, which i took second semester of my first year, and its not really a first year kiddy class, i managed a 112 on a calculus exam while high, and the lowest score i got out of the 4 times i took the SATs was a 1470, and my lowest ACT score was a 36, ive scored 99 on the ASVAB, and on the CPT i got 117, 118, and 112. (the highest you can get in each area is a 125)
we let the matter of whether pot is morally "bad" or not up to our laws, MAN's laws.
many cultures and religions respect weed and revere it as a medicine, and alcohol is taboo to them.
weed itself does not make a person bad or a slacker, its the persons attitude that ultimately affects their life.

 

I think the bottom line here is that you can overdo/misuse just about anything.

 

I'm trying to figure out if smoking once a day will do anything to my mental clarity. I used to smoke hash like 20 times a day for years, and i admit life was a bit hazey (Good, but hazey). The thing i hate the most is how it messes your memory. Memory is all we have besides the present and is our source of knowledge. It seems like once you fully stop your memory is good as new though.

 

fuck this thread

 

It really depends on the person. Some people will be effected in a negative way by it. Also depends on the strains you smoke. Indica WILL make you lazy, anyone trying to deny that is in denial big time

The idea with everything is to know your limits. If you find it's not doing you good smoking every day, then limit it. Take long several week breaks. It's worth it for a nice zero tolerance when you come back anyway.

Hope this helps.

-Matt

 

I love smoking weed before doing homework and i always use opiates during class. IDK why but it seems to get me super focused. I'm going to med school and shit may be hard but when your high it makes you relax and calm throughout the class/homework/studying i love it. But on the other side i can think much clearer when i'm sober and my short term memory is better when i havent smoked.

 

There IS a reason it's called dope.

 

Yeah, propaganda to make people think shit like OP =P

 

thats nice..

 

this

 

I'm going to agree with PsyGrunge. Used in moderation Cannabis is a great thing, and I can relate this to personal experiance because I've been smoking occasionally in the past year and it hasnt limited me at all. Grades in school are exactly same as before I smoked. It's just a problem when abused or when you just can't handle it.

 

you went to rehab.... for weed?

 

weed sucks and is boring........way overated