right, and there have been a whole hell of a lot of sects of christianity that didn't believe in free will. ever heard of predestination? the puritans believed that people, no matter what they did, were determined at birth as to whether they would be damned for eternity or were to go to heaven. that doesn't sound like free will to me. and a lot of christians think that god knows everything that you do and are going to do. if god knows all, and knows what you are going to do, how is there free will?