We were gonna change the world...what happened?

I say a lot of things. One of them, the one that I think really bothers you and
Earthmother, is that a person can't live like everyone else and legitimately claim
to be different from everyone else because they wear a different costume and
talk as if their ideals are a reality.

These are very superficial differnces. Like putting a GreenPeace bumper sticker
on your 4-wheeled-planet-killing-slave-financed-war machine and pretending that
suddenly it is as benign as a pair of sandals.

But this kind of denial is epidemic in this society and you shouldn't take it
so personally. You were raised to be like this. We all were. It begins with
being told when we are young that there is free speech in America because
it says so in the Bill of Rights. Then we get some experience in the world
and discover that this isn't the case at all. That saying what you really
believe will often get you in serious trouble. And we see that all of the
Authority Figures in our lives, from parents to ministers to police officers
to teachers and administrators, are not simply comfortable with this obvious
hypocrisy, but don't even realize they are being hypocrites.

So we follow their example. And many other similar ones. It is not easy
to break this conditioning.

The whole country is built on it. The myth of America and the reality
of America are two quite different things.

LIttlefoot

 

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Hello Brothers and Sisters,
As usuall, cuz I am so busy with out my own puter, ( other things must come first) I am LATE into this conversation, but how well put Furtherboat.I grew up in a security military family, so we were a lil behind the times sometimes. Like in 66-early 68, we lived in Karomasel Turkey, and no I didnt spell it right! NO TV,, old radio shows Sat. Morn, and Sat. once we were on base, all afternoon I'd be at the theater watchin stuff I probably was to young to see. When we came back to the states in early 68, to Ft. Meade Maryland, things had changed drastically. I watched kids gettin beat up in DC & all over the country, protestin the war, while they showed reall bloody stuff from Vietnam, all on the news.My father was brain washed, and a drunk.I got kicked outta Japan at 15,,for not snitchin! But I couldnt have lived as easily on the streets had it not been for all the changes from not to many yr's earlier. The right to be seen by a Dr. without parental consent. I fought w/ Dr.Clyde Tidwell for youth rights in Az. and we won at the time, they built a center for unwanted,abused kids seperate from the juvi.jail, cuz thats where we got before the center was built.I was on probation for bein unwanted, and they wouldnt revoke it, I had 6 mo's before I would be 18, so I got fed up and hit the rd.But I lived on the streets even on probation, and that would have been unheard of just a few yrs before. So, thanks to ALL beautiful brothers and sisters who did so much to help make change.To bad that we have had to go backwards in time cuz of stupid people that for some reason keep bein in charge of OUR country! F.B. The more I read, the more I like ya!

 

We thought we had all the answers. We were naive. It turned out to be way more complicated than we could've imagined, when every day was a party and it was so easy to think we could do better, change things when we were older, when we had influence. Then we got there and realized it's still what it was...

...if you're doing it right...

 

WoW, I just re-read this whole thread... watta a roller coater ride...wheeee!!!

I have to say; From what I have just read, I feel glorius.. I see the people here so inteligent, maybe not 'schooled' but the ideas and the sinserity is overwhelming. It just proves, that we ARE still in the game, we are here and doing. WE ARE THE CHANGE.

I do get my panties in a wad when someone trys to rip apart what the GOOD Folks in here are saying/doing and living like. I will defend my people till death. I will satnd and be counted. I don't care if some don't like the way I am.. let me tell ya, it was bc of my beliefs in humanity that I choose to FIGHT for what I believe. It is the path I came to walk.

I get mad, I get shitty, I get to a place where my Warrior Spirit comes to the surface, and I stand my ground. I lived what few could only see in the movies. I bare the scars to prove it. I faught for our rights, I was beaten and bloodied, I almost lost my children. I almost lost my life on more then one occation. But I continue the fight because I still believe that we were on the right trail.

I changed it for my children, I taught them a different way to see things, the beauty in the world, laughter, togetherness, love for thy brother/sister. To respect others, to give of themselves. To be honorable and your word is your bond. I also taught them to stand up for what they believe in and not be a sheepole.

That's where we will do the most good, that is where the change will come for others. I have been the change all my life. Always different then my school mates, always being critizied for what I thought, dressed like or how I acted It wasn't till the hippie flood came pouring into mainstream did people understaood what I was.. I was born Hippie. I'll die the way I came.

A big thanks to all of you hippies. Thank You for being there with me. Thank You for putting yourselves out there to start the change. Thank You for standing up and living like you do, for speaking out and being the change itself.

Thankssss to the OLD BEATNICKS that opened our minds with the truth. The beats of yesteryear were what brought the hippies that put it on the line in the 60s/70s.

What we do with it now is up to us. What we teach damn well better be the truth.

 

I thnk Im haveing aheart attack..calling 911

 

Are youn serious??

 

I'm back from the E.R. They say I have H-Palori, a stomach bacteria. The perscription they gave me was $338.37. I cannot afford it. I am going to find the herbal cure. I will not take poison nor pay hundreds for it. Of course I will post Everything from start to finish here for everyone to learn from.

I have appearently had it for over a year. Last May I had an attack and had a areteiralgram, heart Cath. they found my heart to be in good working order. I had another attack this morning and the E.R. doc ran a serese of teats which indicated H-Palori Bacterial Stomach infection. He, the doc, said since it has gone untreated for so long it has advanced into stomach cancer.

I will have to find something quick before anything of that nature takes place in my body. Wish me luck.

Brightest Blessings my family, my friends. If anything happens to me, know that I love you all and you have made my life better for knowing you. Thank you.

sh

 

Zev, My Brother.. Thank you for the call. I didn't catch the # so I couldn't respond.

I'm sorry for disrupting the thread, I was really scared and by myself at the time. I will create another thread as not to take this one over.

Bright Blessings
sh

 

Good to hear you're OK, a homeopathic cure is the way to go if you can make it work, good luck on that.

 

Dear Heart, Shameless heifer,
my prayers are with you. Please do keep us posted. I dont know you other than here, but I love you. Thankyou agin for bein you!

 

Love you too luvione.

 

... we still can change the world.. im working on it.. but with all the apathetic, hesitant folk of today its hard...

 

i dont know why, but this is about to make me cry. and i dont cry often.

maybe the world didn't change as much as you wanted it to, hoped it would. but they way i see it, it's still changing. we've come so far since the beginning, and yes some things still need to be changed but that's where my generation needs to step up. we need to carry on what was started, and if we can't finish it maybe the next, and the next after that. i don't care if it sounds stupid, or pointless, there is still a chance that the dreams will become reality.

people are afraid to open their eyes, and i and hopefully others will continue your fight to get them past the fear.

 

I've thought about this question every day for the past, what, three years since I first saw this thread. The answer seemed to come so easy when we were young before we became vested and entrenched in the system. Now the stuff we thought we owned owns us, and the "security" we thought we were building for ourselves is a house of cards. We can change that if we're willing to alter our perspectives a bit, make some sacrifices, take some risks, and embrace change in the name of progress. It's never too late for that, unless we choose to sit back, throw our hands in the air, and do nothing about it while making excuses about the futility of the situation, but that's our choice, and we're responsible for it.

I may be hopelessly naive, but I feel I've only just begun to change the world...

 

Think about it....a black man running for President on the Democratic ticket....just barely beat out a woman running for President....HEY!!! WE DID CHANGE THE WORLD!!!! :cheers2:

 

A right on post. We grew old as we raised our families and became part of the new system we help create.

Unfortunately we did not stay alert and the old system has reappeared, stronger then it was before, while no one is around who is willing or able to fight it again.




Always loved that line "Too soon we grow old, too late we grow wise"

 

Damn straight.

Sure we're getting old and tired, with other priorities like raising a family and paying the bills, but when I go to ACLU meetings, I'm the youngest one there. Most of these folks are in their 60's, hell--our eldest is in his 90's--and there's still plenty of fight in all of 'em, it's inspiring.

The challenge now is to get the younger folks involved and mobilized. We're getting there.

It's never too late.

 

Personally, I think I have changed my life over the past couple of years to love more, and open my heart to people less fortunate. I care about nature and all I want these days is a better world. If we have have a mentality that is along these lines, I think the world would be a great place! Everyone who truly wants to change the world- STAY STRONG! We can do it! PEACE

 

These three guys die in a car wreck and they all go to Hell. When they arrive the Devil asks each of the men what their sin was.
The first guy says, "It's gotta be the booze. I'm always drunk."
The Devil decides to lock him in a room with nothing but shelves of every kind of alcohol imaginable.
The guy's thinking, "Fuck yeah! Look at all this alcohol!" and runs into the room.
The second guy says, "It's the women, I could never stay faithful to my wife."
The devil opens up the second door and inside is nothing but the finest looking naked women as far as the eye can see. The guy was to be locked in for 100 years. He couldn't believe it and his dick got instantly hard and he went running into the room as the Devil locked the door behind him.
The third dude says, "It's gotta be the bud. I'm always tokin' up."
The Devil opens the third door to reveal nothing but fields of 10ft tall icky, sticky, take-a-toke, make-ya-choke, chronic, green, death bud. The stoner can't believe it. He goes in and takes a seat Indian style with his back to the door and the Devil shuts and locks the door.
One hundred years pass and the Devil returns to check on the three men.
He opens the first door and the man comes crawling out. He's got an empty bottle in one hand, he's completely naked, hasn't shaved or showered in years, and is covered in his own puke, shit, and piss. "I'll never drink again!" he says. The devil says it's good he learned something and decides to give him a second shot at life.
The devil then opens the second door and the man comes running out twice as fast as when he went in. "I'm fucking gay!" he screams. The devil figures he's learned not to cheat on his wife and decides to give him a second chance too.
The devil then comes to the third door. He opens it and sees nothing has changed. The stoner is still sitting there in the same position that he was 100 years ago.
The Devil asks him if he's learned anything.
The stoner turns around as a tear rolls down his cheek, "Dude ... you got a light?"