water should be privatized says Nestlé

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  1. odonII

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    storch

    You are just repeating yourself now. Resorting to doing what you usually do.
    So until you start answering questions - I'm done.
     
  2. roonei

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    Many of the freedoms we enjoy here in the U.S. are quickly eroding as the nation transforms from the land of the free into the land of the enslaved, but what I’m about to share with you takes the assault on our freedoms to a whole new level. You may not be aware of this, but many Western states, including Utah, Washington and Colorado, have long outlawed individuals from collecting rainwater on their own properties because, according to officials, that rain belongs to someone else.

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    More details: http://awe.sm/iEj6H

    No more free water ???
     
  3. odonII

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    'Collecting Rainwater Now Illegal in Many States' - It doesn't seem to be new. Some laws are, apparently, over 100 years old. Times seem to be changing.

    “unlawful diversion of rainwater”
    After constructing a large rainwater collection system at his new dealership to use for washing new cars.
    Salt Lake City officials worked out a compromise with Miller and are now permitting him to use “their” rainwater

    The e.g in your picture: To paraphrase 'we have more important things to worry about than that'



    Published: June 28, 2009
    It’s Now Legal to Catch a Raindrop in Colorado
    Science has also stepped forward to underline how incorrect the old sweeping legal generalizations were.
    In Utah, collecting rainwater from the roof is still illegal unless the roof owner also owns water rights on the ground; the same rigid rules, with a few local exceptions, also apply in Washington State. Meanwhile, 20 miles south of here, in New Mexico, rainwater catchment, as the collecting is called, is mandatory for new dwellings in some places like Santa Fe.

    And in Arizona, cities like Tucson are pioneering the practices of big-city rain capture. “All you need for a water harvesting system is rain, and a place to put it,”

    http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2...water-now-illegal-in-many-states-2513766.html
     
  4. odonII

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    Your link does not work.

    http://"http://awe.sm/iEj6H"]Collecting Rainwater Now Illegal in Many States (Video)

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  5. storch

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    Odon, my contetion from the beginning has been that Nestle doesn't really care about the environment. I posted information having to do with data that Nestle used which was deliberately flawed in an attempt to downplay the environmental effects on an area from which they were pumping. Do you remember this:
     
    "MCWC and others filed sound scientific and expert comments that the determination was flawed back in 2007. The company and DEQ relied on monitoring affects and stream measurements far below the headwaters and Decker Pond. " Jim Olson, the environmental attorney for MCWC said. "How can you measure the harm of pumping on the upper reach of a valuable trout stream by relying on measurements below the area of influence? That’s like taking a blood pressure reading around your foot."

    You seemed to have disagreed with that without saying why. You should say why!

    Also, it's actually true that, after a ten-day trial of USA Springs pumping 300,000 gallons of water per day from the local aquifier in Barrington, New Hampshire, sectionals of a local wetland were completely dry. A similar result occurred when the Sedona Springs Bottled Water Company started pumping groundwater from the Tonto National Forest; it caused the death of native fish, leopard frogs, the Mexican black hawks, a couple species of trees, and die-back deer grass.

    If you believe that that is untrue, you should say why.
     
  6. Resistance isn't futile

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    Of course they don't.

    If they really cared about this planet and people. They would use their resources and all the food they have to feed the hungry.

    But of course there's no profit in that.
     
  7. skip

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    What we should do is LET all these corporations upgrade the water infrastructure around the world, then NATIONALIZE the water and those companies.

    So you get private money to improve water supplies, then have gov't take it over in the name of the people... :)
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Except the government is already owned by the corporations, hence the problem.
     
  9. odonII

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    storch

    Thompson Lake, Osprey Lake, are the Dead Stream are are either/and: Heavily developed (housing etc) Man made lakes for the purposes of fishing (re-stocked every year)/hunting (killing the wild-life) and well managed by the LCMDCO.
    They are not some pristine natural waterways that have been untouched for hundreds, possibly thousands of years.
    People go there to snag fish to take home to eat.
    And hunt with their camouflaged high powered rifles.
    So forgive me for not getting too misty eyed about the area, and too worked up about the apparent devastating impact of Nestle's activity in the area.
    The links and quotes you have provided are from one side of the argument. An argument that is now over.
    A compromise was found. Case closed.

    My point is, what are Thompson Lake, Osprey Lake, the Dead Stream like now - given the ongoing pumping and the devastating damage Nestle are supposedly doing (even if it is at half the speed)?

    If your contention is: Nestle doesn't really care about the environment.
    Then what do you want me to do?
    Post all of the relevant and complimentary links from nestle?

    I still have not got my head around the whole who can take who to court etc - that seems quite interesting.

    But arguing the toss about some lakes (etc) that from what I can gather are perfectly ok, seems a little pointless - unless there has been some significant environmental damage.
     
     
  10. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    I really like "the I-religion" reminds me of Rastafari. I don't think technology should be included, as technology includes everything since the fire, and up to vaccinations.

    But I do think what modern technology represents is important. Self-indulgence, easiness, escapism. It's sloth and gluttony wrapped in a nice distracting package.
     
  11. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    It can be, but is not inherently.

    I expect that when someone first put a plow behind an animal, all the villagers thought it was the height of hedonistic slothful indulgence. And then they put their own plows on animals.

    It's all about how you approach it. It needn't be that way.
     
  12. hahaha04

    hahaha04 Whatevers Clever

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    collecting water without a permit.............. what in the fuck. :(
     
  13. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Just what I was getting at; bit more specific though =P
     
  14. Lafincoyote

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    People are the only beings on the planet that have to pay to live here. Water privitized today, then air tomorrow, eventually the ruling elite will try to tax sex, as their collective greed knows no bounds. Tie yourself to the earth, and let Spirit guide you in your life. If everyone can learn to ignore these spoiled entities that attempt to rule us then their power will fade away and we can return to a better way to live without all the ignorant interference we now have to suffer with. Turn off your TV then go outside and reconnect to the real world!
     
  15. roonei

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    Thanks so much for your information!! The link is now fixed: http://awe.sm/iEj6H
     
  16. Resistance isn't futile

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    What do you think all the fuss about AIDS is? When someone figures out that they have a greater chance of getting cancer from second hand cigarette smoke than they do from unprotected sex and then looks into how much money the HIV/AIDS industry makes. It becomes clear that it's a tax on sex.

    These are the games that greedy men play.
    If they have a million pounds they dream of having 10 million.
    If they have 10 million pounds they dream of having 100 million

    and they scheme and cook up all kinds of ways to get it. When you think about it, it's really a sick addiction.
     
  17. nicholasfury

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    Congruencism.com

    Isn't privatizing water something a James Bond villain tried to do once?
     
  18. odonII

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    No.
     
  19. ColorExchange

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    As long as they do not tax me for collecting rain water, Im cool.
     
  20. Tyrsonswood

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    ^^^ That is actually against the law in some places, so I've heard.
     

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