War on Terror-why arn't we winning ?

Terror comes from hatred. and where hatred comes from?

If we shoot bullet at hatred it become bigger. It's that simple.

 

We are losing the war on terror because war is terror

 

spoton! michael :2thumbsup:

 

i find it very hard to believe that someone who grew up in a multicultural country can't see any difference between different cultural traditions.and if you think every human being on planet earth all comes from the same race of people genitically speaking ! i suggest you further your education on geneticism. well then i'm glad i'm not in that general group.i pick my friends based on their individual ways.different strokes for different folks .everyone ta their own.heres a question for you? have you ever wondered why you never hear the term british -american ?i always find that strange given the fact that only 1 3rd of migrants from ireland ta america were actually irish ,whereas the the other 2 3rds were actually british people who migrated ta america on leaving ireland.i don't know why you go through such great lengths to look for ways to divide people rather than focus on what unites people as human beings.you and others who think that way can only find the answers ta those questions inside ye're selves.

 

The original English settlers of America were pilgrims who left England because they felt isolated in their religious beliefs, ie Quakers. Sounds a little familiar today doesn't it?

 

Well, in all fairness lets not forget the Dutch. New York was originally called 'New Amsterdam'. And I believe my home state of New Jersey was original (aside from Natives, of course) a Dutch territory. But the Dutch and Brits were best buds and I think they sold it.

That was kind of an aside, and I don't mean to miss your point. Just adding a bit is all. :sunny:

 

i'm a native of my country.

 

Most of us in the States (going far back enough) don't have the privilege of calling ourselves that. Some sins cannot be erased.

 

they were best buddies cos of both their german connections.thats cos the dutch came from german tribes.the same as the english.in actually fact the true britons are the welsh.before they got pushed out ta the outskirts.so the welsh should own england,not them.which means people who call themselves english don't really have an official nationality tecnically speaking.even the word england comes from the german word angles.but it makes sense the german racist war against the jews.an the british racist war against the irish.one common factor.their all nazis.

 

Fair enough - indeed the legend of King Arthur was originally Celtic.

Seems a bit harsh. But both are in the past yes?

 

how dya mean fuddy ?

 

king arthur is myth, the same as merlin the madgician.what seems a bit harsh ?

 

McFuddy, I wouldn't line her up so she can take another swing at 'The English'.

I've been looking up Ireland and it seems that 'modern' settlements are around 9000 years old. What puzzled me is Ireland's location. Also what cropped up was the Iberian Peninsula migration. Fascinating stuff.

 

"We" as in the United States eradicated the natives. That as a wrong doing cannot be undone. I think it a fairly rare privilege to be able to call oneself a 'native' to ones own homeland. If one has to wage war against indigenous humans, as we did, we cannot call ourselves such and have to live with the stain of genocide for countless generations.

I feel like I'm derailing the thread, for that I apologize.

 

I know very very little about all that. But I've read that the city of Paris was originally founded by Celtic tribes. Somehow I find that ironic, although I couldn't explain why.

 

Cultural differences are quite obvious, and are more related to how people adapt to the environment and changing beliefs which is directly imposed upon them, allowing people who originated from the same cultural group to change over time if a group of them moves away.

It has been proven genetically that ALL humans do indeed have a common genetic origin, and there is no nationality gene, and you, I, and all other humans belong to the same species, Homo sapiens. Genetically speaking you may share more in common with some British individuals than you do with some Irish individuals.

Don't we all? And I think that is only natural.

I have often wondered WHY anyone feels a need for such terms.
Culturally speaking, I've been attempting to discover how you see a difference between what you call an Irish person and a British person. Having a few friends from both countries, the only difference I've been able to tell is in their accent when speaking to them.

My original words were "Why do we go to such great length to look for ways to divide us from one another rather than focus on what unites us as human beings?"
Speaking of Irish and British, I obviously see no difference while it appears that YOU have something inside ye're self[sic] that I've been trying to discover. Perhaps it is justifiable, but I can't make that determination without knowing what it is.

 

What was the topic of this thread anyway?
Oh, "War on Terror-why arn't we winning ?"

Are we really fighting a 'war' on terror?

I think it would be more accurate to say that we are simply responding to acts of terror, and the question should be "what is it that causes persons to commit acts of terror, and is there really any way at all to totally prevent them or like other criminal acts are we left only to respond as such acts occur? As it only takes one person to commit an act of terror, it may be possible to eliminate some causes, but not all, so it cannot be fought like a war, and therefore cannot be won like a war.

 

A little out of touch with your history Roamy.

The first established settlers were the Picts. They were pushed aside by the celts ie Scots and Irish, the Picts became the modern day Welsh. The Celtic tribes spread out north and later on to Ireland. Then came the Britons, also a Celtic tribe from modern day France. They apparently lived in harmony with the Celts, no big issue there. It's often been thought that Britania was of mixed race. Then there was the Romans, who apart from the Northern Celts and Picts had free reign over Britain. Much later as we know, the Saxons came from Denmark; at this time what is today modern Germany was ruled by the Normans not the Saxons. So your Germanic theory doesn't wash. Finally was the Normans themselves. So anyone calling themselves British, has as much of the same DNA in them as the Irish, Welsh and Scots. The Saxon blood would be quite watered down by now, and the only thing people draw to conclusion on Germanic blood is through the Royal Family. Lets not forget that within Nazi Germany, there were many native Germans who opposed the regime, there was simply not enough of them. You can read a very long list of distinguished Germans of that time who helped free a lot of the Jewish people at their own risk and sometimes death. My great great Uncle and Aunt were two of them.

 

no one had to wage war on indigenous humans.they just did!

 

i've known since i could walk and talk that the that my nation orginate from from the basque regions of the iberian peninsula.as we were the first people ta ever set foot on our country.we are amongst one of the oldest nations in europe.my people walked here all the way from iberia,hunter gatherers in search of food.we lived in huts by the sides of rivers and lived on berries and natures other foods.we were here long before landmass break.the first brits came here later by timber canoe for trading purposes.we named our country after the ice break long before ye came.we are here since 8000bc.we were the first hunter gatherers.