Yes. I am a master of digital douchebaggery. Let's keep this thread sacred, please. If you don't have anything to say in regards to sleep paralysis, astral projection, or lucid dreaming, then please PM me with your concerns. Peace
One thing I've noticed is that opiate use surely got it's name Morpheus due to the extreme potential (almost unavoidable for me, no matter the dose) for inducing the sleep paralysis state. When I first started inducing these experiences I would use the television for the soft glow or the soft sound as the 'rope' to bring me back in case the encounter with the seizure sensations was one that is unbreakable. As I've grown older I've gotten use to the experience and no longer induce them because they come often enough of their own will. I remember the last one I had, at first I was rising out of bed and hit the ceiling lol and coulnt get back down, kept floating. Then I 'woke up' in bed only to see that my vision was a kaleidescope of neon washers and dryers tunneling out into a source of light. I couldnt touch the light though, Im obviously not prepared yet due to mental baggage to experience the source of consciousness in any other state than sober meditation. The hypnagogic state is very playful, but I dont believe it to be any more spiritualy significant than regular dreams, the amount of control one has tends to lead one to explore the astral realms but there appear to be no connection with the causal thought realms, and therefor at least in my belief, it is not very meaningful at all. Just another show of God's art work in creation. Beautiful of course though, nothing else is quite like it at all. God Bless +
I've yet to find any meaning, and I definitely know where you are coming from. These experiences have been some of the funnest (and most mysterious) of my life, though and that means something to me. Poppies are amazing dream inducers. I don't need to say anything. You already know . . I can't get over how loud the explosions are when I leave my body, and how I can never predict where (and when) I will end up . . I love sound...love to work with it...I'm trying to figure out what causes these insane BOOMS it's as if the soul is launching from the throat. heart power.
Namaste friend The sounds are most definitley intense, so intense that no matter how expected they are, it's an overwhelming shake of the soul everytime. And really what gets me is the seizure symptoms. They didnt even start for me until I was nearly 20. I've had this since I can remember, even as a small child, and they only involved waking up on the couch or the bed, going and doing something, realizing something was wrong (blood on my face in the mirror, pee and it's crazy colours, drink alcohol and there is none) and I would wake up and realize that I had been dreaming and be like 'wtf!'. But when the seizures came, along came the psychedelic visions. Now it's a mix of both, it starts with a bad dream or with confusion, then the buzzing and Im half here/half there, then it evolves into a massive psychedelic trip that is so far beyond LSD or mushrooms that I cant convey the beauty and intensity. I've never had the oppuritunity to smoke DMT, but I have a strong feeling that I know at least partially what it's like, because these episodes are violently earth shattering, yet so wonderful and blissful at the same time. I've never been abducted by aliens exactly, but I've been reborn out of the mechanics of an automobile, I've become other people and lived through their skin, and I've had encounters with, well, things that dance and materialize the fabric of reality as they do so. I call them fairies God Bless +
By the way I just thought Id clarify, I took up Paramanhansa Yogananda as my guru a few years ago, and it is he who more than anyone else I've ever studied under, explains the astral/causal realms with such detail that there is no doubt in my mind of his truth. But he explains that the light/energy show of the astral realm confuses us and temporarily leads us off the path of discovering the source of all light and energy, our God. Many people get to the astral realms and never advance and think that's what it's all about, and he calls it the middle stage of doubt in self realization. I take his word for it to heart, my own experience is not 1% of Gurujis. God Bless +
I used to think DMT played a key role in these events, until I got to work with the neurotransmitter deeply... I mean......... I fly through the most beautiful artwork synched up with sacred geometry (crazier than the craziest tags on the block) that are morphing at the speed of light, and I am SOARING through all of this some how........SO FAST ZOOMING and everything is rapidly changing so swift... The most complicated yantras in the universe are sizzling right there before my third eye and the warped xylophones bring the beings that swarm around me and fill me with love. Here's a house grown from seed, and an entire civilization is born. Next up we have these alien planets shall we fly above their terrain (Huge poppy-like alien flowers with mind pheromones jiving to the rhythms) O check out this physicless machinery. And if you sing, or speak, the vibrations materialize into cymatic reactions. Icaros, the amazonian shamans call them . . Everything ancient, everything futuristic. These two states of being are very, very different. I have a lot of work to do, my friend. I barely understand any of this. If it is inside of us, and almost every single plant, it's gotta be connected There is a golden cathedral you will pass through. Crystalline pillars drooping cloud-like looking up and out of the crown. A sacred language glowing, and flowing. The physicless masters of the universe reasurring, and waving goodbye.
I believe hyperspace must be vibrating at a higher frequency than astral astral seems to be a mash of everything that's ever been thought (like a messy akashic record dimension) while hyperspace is . . a completely different dimension that is realer than this reality. the soul soars, there . . doesn't wander.
(this is Relayer btw) I dont think it is DMT causing the hypnagogic state, but rather that DMT, LSD, Sillycibon, Opiates, and meditation are all taking us through various levels of the same state. The astral is a mash of everything which has ever been thought, because we exist as thought within it, and it itself is composed of thought. But the causal are the 35 thoughts themselves, which correspond with the 35 elements of the astral/physical. Yogananda says the physical body is composed of 16 fundamental elements. Now, given the time period in which he lived, the Standard Model of physics was not even acknowledged yet. But the 16 particles which compose the particles in atomic mass are surely what Guruji was referring to, when you take into consideration his teaching that the macrocosmic is a reflection of the microcosmic. Now where it really gets interesting, is with the Higgs boson, or the God particle, and linking it with Yoganandas 'lifetron'. His 'thoughttron' is the manifesting quality of the astrals light/energy weaving, but it is the causal we should be striving for, the mirror 35 qualities which compose this dream reality with thought alone. This is the Sahasrara, this is Kundalini Devi joining Her consort Shiva, this is the source of all, God itself. According to his yogic line, including his Guru Yukteswar, the 3 planes of existence represent the Triumurti (the Trinity of creation) and this three fold ascencsion once unraveled, links with the Sat Chit Ananda, and life is over as it just begins. The unity underlying this is Om, the sound of reality manifesting, the line over which Sanskrit writing hangs, the prana, the string hidden behind the beads of the necklace, the string theory vibrating every bit of dream matter. Creation, Sustainment, Destruction = God the Father, the son, the Holy Spirit = Body, Mind, Soul = Beginning, Middle, End = Physical, Astral, Causal = Man, Woman, Child and so on and so on. But there is only one life pulsing it all into being, and that life is transcendental to any psychedelic experience, dream state, meditative effort, or knowledge/wisdom we may ever gain. I believe, we can only atune ourselves to it, allow it to take us back, and being reborn is linking the mind with the all pervasive consciousness. The geometry with which Mother Nature breathes us into being is still a part of maya when we are not looking for the source of this motion picture. God Bless +
It's funny the confusion we feel regarding the realms of thought, are they external? Are they internal? But it is nonsense really, the cosmic joke! How can thought be contained in any kind of locality once we learn that reality is composed of thought? It's God that get's me though. I mean just what the hell is She? Besides awesome And everything God Bless +
I always hear the mars volta in my head these days: "Intentions, accidents weaving through your sanctuary"
I dont know Only Yogananda and Sri Yukteswar knew, and they died a long time ago. But they left us with information that, I dont believe any of us will see to be revealed. We may see the revolution in science when they test to see wether or not the Higgs boson exists in a few years, but even then, our species is so slow that we will be dead I think, before Yogananda's lifetron is ever universally accepted.
it's ok, we can just come up with our own list of the 35 thoughts. speaking of yogananda, I still need to get my hands on that book of his.
This is such a trip . . You are. I met one of his disciples through my strange little career. A client of mine (great alto sax player) had known "Baba" for years. I got to meet him one day, and talked to him about dreams, astral, shakti-pat, and kundalini. I forget how they are connected, but he's either one of Yogananda's direct disciple's, or the next generation. I havn't been in contact with my client for a long time . . these were amazing periods of awakening for me. I will always remember my conversation, and meeting with Baba. He's very old now. My client told me some CRAZY stories about him! Divinity and magic just follow these people everywhere. I still can't believe this when I think about it. I met my client thru craigslist...he told me all about autobiography of a yogi and how it was all connected. This life is such a trip... I remember recording in the studio with my client, and he would always have 3 photographs in a gold folding picture holder of yogananda, yogananda's guru, and baba, and whenever I would look up and see these pictures I was just filled with so much electric energy. Every single time I left meeting with my client I had to SCREAM! KICK! SING! because of how much energy I had! My client claimed he didn't have the powers that Baba did... but there was still massive amounts of shakti-pat all around. beautiful . .thank you
Stalk I dont know what to say. That is beautiful beyond words. Joshua, yea, Autobiography of a Yogi. Please read it my friend, I promise you magic will come. God Bless both of you, here's to Guruji! And I will pm both of you tomorrow and account in meditation I had with Guruji Yogananda, if youd like. I dont want to derail the thread anymore with my life lol. And I will post as Relayer again tomorrow, my esposa account is not mine lol :tongue: God Bless +
ok I'm looking forward to it. try and make it mostly english though. a lot of your hindu lingo really confuses me sometimes. I'm not adverse to learning though.
Dear Relayer, please do. Dear Neodude, a lot of sanskrit words only exist in their language. A lot of the phenomena that we experience isn't even in the english language. You'll get it after a while . .