Natural, this weekend I ate mushrooms with the girl I am in love with. I have eaten mushrooms hundreds of times, LSD, etc. and NEVER had something like this happen. We were sitting there, meditating to a picture of Parvati (Divine Mother) and we BOTH, at the same moment, experienced a pain in our bodies that is almost beyond description. It felt like pins and needles, like we were poisoned throughout. We both felt our organd shut down and our heart and blood cancel out. Then we fell on the groun, unable to move, for several hours. And while lying there, I WAS dead Craig, I saw my soul take on negative karma and I ascended to what I believe is the 3rd plane. Honestly, the pain and the joy we both experienced is so far beyond our own current mental capacity, that I can only fail to recount what happened in detail. For most of the time, we were able to read each others thoughts, something we had never experienced before. I tend to think we brought the Divine Mother directly into our conciousness and she took over us for a few hours, showing us the bliss and the hell of the soul's progression. This is common Hindu science, read the Veda's, Upanishads, Gita, etc. You can try Sri Yukteswar's The Holy Science to start, and for a simple English explanation, read The Ancient Wisdom by Annie Besant. She is a thelosophist but she is on the right track. We have the Physical, Astral, and Causl (mental) bodies, each goes through 7 level's of existance, and so do the heavens. People can say what they want, but I know what I felt Craig, and it scared the living shit out of me. -
When she brought Him (Jesus PBUH) to her people, “… They said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing. Oh sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a wicked man nor was thy mother a harlot” (Quran 19:27-28). At this point, Jesus (PBUH) reveals His first miracle and speaks to public: … Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet. And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive, Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! (Quran 19:30-33) there is an entire chapter on Maryam, peace and blessings be on her called Sura Maryam in the Quran ..apart from two other's
Relayer, Mushrooms cause the brain to drop many of the filters we use in our normal waking state. Now, be aware that the mind is a factory. It can manufacture anything you can dream up. Anything. Couple this to the subconcious mind, where you create according to desires, beliefs(like religion), and outer stimulation, you get a trip. Since the mind also controls all of the bodily functions, it gets carried along in this current as well. This is what gives you the physical sensations you have when you trip. Religious iconography(don't be lazy, look it up) figures prominately in both drug trips and mental illness like schizophrenia. As you see yourself as a seeker, this will always have a starring role in whatever drama unfolds for you while tripping. When you can have a "God moment" without drugs, let me know. Until then, I've seen it all before. The fact that you expressed fear is a dead giveaway it wasn't the real thing. Fear is something only the mind manufactures. x
Thank's for the warm reception, xexon. Obviously your sober God moments have left you with nothing but divine love. Peace. -
Love is what we were in the beginning. We are born from love. It is our true self. The "Earth" is what we have attached to ourselves to. Out of a misdirected love. We touched the physical world tarbaby, and it touched back. Now your souls are covered with this stuff. It forms a cocoon of it's own creation around your now limited perception. "It" is all you can see anymore. It's who you think you are. This very moment. I will tell you all that all that you know, is contained within the walls of this cocoon. The divine connection comes from having pierced this cocoon, and seeing the much larger spaces beyond it. You have broken the spell of fascination you had on this world, and traded it for one of much greater perspective. You are now a citizen of two worlds. You are still in the body, and have that perspective, but you also now have a door that opens to the "kingdom" All the charms of this world fall away like autumn leaves. All the wealth you've worked so hard for in regular life, becomes meaninless. You now realize where the real wealth is. It is access to it all, and have no desire for any of it. It now has limited value. In realization of the self, it all becomes you. You are the God you seek. There is nothing apart from you anymore. You're just a leaf on the God tree. Right now, you have awareness of a leaf. Wait until you have the awareness of the tree. It will be the best ride of your previous life. x
Well I must say that this was a much warmer reply xexon. And one with which I agree entirley. I am very new with hatha yoga and I am being taught how to practice it now. And Im preparing for kriya. I was simply suprised that someone of your state would imply that I had no idea what iconography is without getting to know me first, at all.
Beware of my state. People who have preconcieved notions of what "holy men" are supposed to be like, will often overlook the real ones in pursuit of their "ideal" one. Put Jesus in jeans and a t-shirt, watch people call him a hippy. People will see what they want to, according to their preconcieved notions. Put Jesus in robes, and watch people react. The content has not changed, only the packaging has. Remember, divinity expresses itself through human form, and it will always be colored by that form, that individual. x
May I be allowed to speak, even though I am Buddhist by choice? I totally agree with what you say Xenon. That is what the Buddha preaches as well. You have just made the connection between two belief systems many miles apart, but still have the same central theme: Redemption lies within by breaking through the shell of the ego, tainted by the world. Love is and god is love and we are god. We don't see that because of the dust (or in some cases, dirt) in our eyes. Let me go on about my god rant: God is everything that surrounds us. It is in the air that we breath, the earth that we step on, the water in our sink. We are all made up of god and what is god but love? We were created out of love, not in some manner described in the bible but a real process which includes evolution. I feel like I'm going in circles, and if you want, I will further describe my philosophy of love and god. Sorry for intruding, Xenon, your posts were too good not to respond to. Thank you for your perspective on reality. I think you have had an awakened moment... Peace and love
God is all that permeates physical existance, but surely there is more to God than a self sustaining eternal substance? Like multiple flames coming out from under a burner, it is one flame projected in different spots. -
I believe that god is an energy, something that permeates everything but cannot be created or destroyed, just transferred into other forms... peace and love
You are close. Imagine God as the clay that creation is made from. Form changes, but not substance. You have the identity of the form (your personal identity), but you are still made out of "God". To realize this connection is the goal of any spiritual path. To have both form and divine awareness, is to be a Christ. A citizen of both worlds. x
