my mind has felt pretty fucked on 20 mg (and a few bong hits) i think i've tripped harder on 2ce than i ever have on acid or mushrooms. that's probably related to dose though
What would you define as higher dose...? Cuz I took little more than 25mg and still nothing... I mean nothing compared to LSD or 4-aco-DMT....
he's done up to 60 mg of 2ce i believe. i can't imagine taking that much. most i've done is appox. 20mg. 25 would probably be too much for me. what's your dosage for acid and 4acodmt? you seem happy to trip on 2ce even though it doesn't give you this mindfuck. so i assume you can appreciate that 2ce is just a different kind of trip - and that's what you're commenting on
O man 60mg.. I intend to take round 30mg in about 10 days... Until than all my tolerance, if there is any, will be gone and I will trip in proper set and setting... @porkstock41 I definitely like tripping on 2c-e.. .me and my girl call it vacation psychedelic ... I found 25mg providing beautiful 2c-e trip.. Minus is as I said duration... On 25mg I was totally satisfied with effects for like 2 hours maximum.. Strong part of trip was like 5-6h maximum... it did lasted 10h or so... but last half of trip was only visual, not even really strong and not complex.. while strongest part provided beautiful and complex visuals.. My dosage of LSD... Unfortunately I still didn't get near doses I want but hope I will get some strong acid soon and continue my path ... I believe strongest dose I took was 200-250mics... But even 1 blotter of what suppose to be round 75-95mics was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy stronger experience than 25mg of 2c-e... Have in mind that that blotters where sold as much stronger(150-180mics) but I'm telling you dosage that one source told me and I believe that source more... And also compared to other blotters I did, they were weakest.. And 4-aco-DMT... to be honest I'm not sure exactly how much I took but I believe I took 20mg and second time 27mg, but it could have been higher... I absolutely love that compound... Also one of problems with 2c-e is I doesn't push me away..lol... I could do it all the time... I wouldn't take LSD often as often as I take 2c-e...
see for me, 2ce seems a little harsher on the body compared to LSD and i've taken 1-3 hits of LSD and it was usually roughly similar in intensity to 16-20 mg 2ce. granted the trips feel different, but i feel just as altered i guess. some of the acid i'm talking about was sold as 150 ug/hit, so i assume it's at least 70 ug i've taken 2 of those. and i just took 3 hits of stuff that feels more potent to me. so that was PROBABLY like 100 ug/hit. maybe less though. i think the three hits was probably at least 200-250 ugs = a good dose of L. that was quite an intense trip, but so is 18mg 2ce for me - just in a different way. it's so hard to say how it's different though 2ce does seem more clear headed but it can also get pretty "cloudy" headed it seems to come in waves - most of the effects of 2ce where acid maybe feels more constant
Few days ago I have took 15mg of 2c-e and than an 1.5-2.5h(don't know exactly) 3-4mg extra... The reason I took pretty low dose again is that I was still little sick from flu I got week before... no high temperature but was still coughing... The trip was great... I felt almoust none of bad feelings in body and very possible reason for that is that I took it in very positive state of mind... Also my GI awas totally fine, no pain at all.. I did puke but it was no big deal as I felt no nausea few moments after that.. I believe reason for no bad effects on GI was that I didn't eat round 12-15h before trip (I did eat just a little bread before ingesting 2c-e)... and I did eat during the trip and it didn't cause anything bad... All in all my body felt just fine... Extra 3-4(5)mg I took did have effects and added to intensity of visuals... Again the worst part of trip was duration... Like 2h - 3h,maybe 4h of peak.. This is rough estimation: +0.15 - smoked some weed +0:30 - seems like there are some effects of 2c-e, still no visuals +1:00 - effects are definitely noticeable, slight visuals and everything is fun, we laugh a lot... +1:30-2:00 - peak starts, I think round +2:30 I took 3-4mg extra and very soon after that I'm much happier with visuals... everything is fogy, relaxed, no worries... I didn't stare at visuals a lot cuz they are not impressive at all, but in general everything looks nice... And I was little unfocused... +4:00 - I'm frustrated that some of the visuals are gone, I say to my girl how it was great trip but to bad it's almoust over, she says for her not.. I think why it is lasting too short and come to conclusion that mostly only part of visuals is gone.... +4:30 - notice like some of the effects have come back a little and I became little more active.. +6:00 - we smoke some weed, it's nice, brings back some trippynes +7:00 - still having much fun but effects are much weaker until now... feeling good cuz everything is so positive... this trip was in fact very dynamic.... ....... Not sure when trip ended totally cuz visuals at any point where not very strong(notice:I tripped during the day) and as usual there was practically no mind-fuck, we laughed a lot almost hole time and it was very fun and happy trip whole time... We were in great mood and little trippy almoust until we gone sleeping.. Anyway now I think even more that bad effects for body are only some kind of bad trip... Next time I will take more... 25-30mg and during the trip will take more if I feel it's needed... Also there is possibility next time I will take it with LSD... Probably round 100mics of LSD with low dose(s) of 2c-e during trip...
you might have a natural tolerance to 2ce, because lower doses seem to effect me to a greater degree. i've never considered taking a booster dose, but i am happy with the duration of the trip. taking a booster might help to lengthen the duration. do you think you'd rather take the whole dose at once, or take a booster. i mean if you only had say 30 mg. would you (force of acid) take all 30 at once or take 25 mg then 5 mg a little bit later? just curious also, be sure to let us know how it goes if you mix with LSD
I think I would take 25mg first and than extra 5mg, that's mainly cuz I would feel much more comfortable that way... It seems like you can take 2c-e almost whenever you want without feeling serious tolerance, even during the trip. When I took 18mg and than 10mg effects were like what I would except from doses round 25mg.... it was waaaaaaaaay stronger than 18mg but pretty much just stronger visuals and body load(not bad at all).. And effects didn't last much longer.... in fact they did but peak was again too short.... When I try it with LSD I'm not going take big dose of 2c-e cuz I don't want to risk GI pain, bad body load or anything like that during LSD trip even if I didn't get almost any bad effects few last trips on 2c-e... I will take LSD + max 10mg of 2c-e and than during the trip more.....
That's because it's 3 mg away, or about a 10% difference in dosage. That's not much. Unless I misunderstand you.
I wanted to say that I believe 28mg at once would not feel much stronger than 18mg and than later 10mg extra... I just wrote 25mg instead 28mg cuz 28mg at once would probably produce little stronger effects than the way I took it... Do you also experience that increasing dose few mg is not producing much stronger effects like some people claim? I definitely don't experience very big difference between 15mg and 18mg... While some claim that few mg doubles the effects I definitely didn't notice that...
A few mg of 2c-e doubling the effect applies in the low range. There's a much bigger difference between 11 and 14 then there is between 15 and 18...