Vegetarians and destruction of the environment for veggies

Dancerannie most of these statistics people copy and paste are warped to begin with, who wrote them? People trying to get grants for certain things? Or funded research that had an agenda to come up with certain facts?
And then a lot of them are taken out of context and applied to other things and don’t take important factors into account like for example they can say meat in the U.S causes this much pollution and veggies don’t but how much of the meat is being exported? And how much of the veggies are imported?
I’m sure you could go to the orient and apply the same statistics and meat would only be a fraction of the pollution and rice patties would be way more but it would just be because they export rice and import beef. When you are dealing with global products you have to study the whole globe.
Big farms have a lot of very scary pollution statistics also, gigantic erosion and pollution of water tables, but it is just useless info for the average person to make educated personal choices with.
I was hoping people would post some more personal informative info like I live in a big city and all food sources are imported and beans and nuts as an import are less destructive then meat. Things like that (I do think as far as a global import/export market beans are probably a lot more efficient then meat.)
Another thing I was hoping to hear about is things people chose to eat and not eat to boycott things they don’t like and support things they do like. If someone loves butterflies so they boycott coffee because it destroys butterfly nesting grounds or someone who boycotts a certain rice because 90% of it supports china that suppresses Tibet.
A lot of people just say meat is murder and post a bunch of warp statistics taken out of context. But it is a very complex subject with a lot of aspects, modern society is murder, development, farming, ranching it all displaces and kills.
It is a vast subject try to be creative.

 

^All it said was live stock industry pollutes, we all know that. So does farming

I was just trying to bring the discussion above posting dirt.

 

so why was the united states worried about mad cow disease in another country???

 

My guess would be so it didn’t turn into a global epidemic.

It is similar with agriculture also, countries have to watch out for diseases, destructive insects and fungus or they can enter a continent and destroy everything they live off of.

I don’t know much about the subject but that would be my guess.

 

we tend to downplay alot of stuff cause the Earth looks so big from space. The damage is hardly even noticable from upthere.

 

hmm so much to comment on. What do you think the cows eat? huh? they eat more grain that is produced on as you call it plowed land by oil using farm machinery and they eat far more grain than we humans. so we are raising animals that not only release a lot of methane but also eat more vegetable matter than we do so in other words we are greater polluters for eating these animals. its just logic.

also we are not eating animals that would have been displaced by plowing land. Cows are not native to the US or Australia where I live and these animals actually cause errosion on the land. More damage.

I think you are the one who is being very blind to the facts.

 

Have you ever been around cattle?
They are usually grazed on open fields at least in the western U.S. they eat grass and the grass grows back. Yes they eat some grain and hay in the winter, but most of there life they are raised on fields.
When you raise cattle you rotate them so they eat you move them and the grass come back.

Like cow farts are worse then tractors burning diesel and truck burning diesel to deliver veggies?
I have a hard time believing that..

So farming doesn’t cause erosion? I think alot more then ranching.

I think you might be stuck in a false mindset that your eating habits are less destructive then they really are.

So Where are you getting your protein come from..?

 

Well here in Australia, cows certainly get a lot of their food from harvested grain. I've seen it first hand.

Wow, that question makes you look even dumber than you already looked. nice one. lol.

No point in entertaining you any longer. Obviously you just want to justify eating meat to yourself.

 

^Well good way to avoid a question.

Obviously you are trying to pretend you are better then other people who don’t eat the same food as you.

Bliss is ignorance

 

I agree, when I look down from space I have a hard time seeing that indian crying on the side of the road, and how can I tell what's happening to the environment without that guy?

Not being a dick but i think the line is "Ignorance is bliss."
I have a feeling some bliss might not be ignorant.


I'm pretty sure these red bliss potatoes aren't ignorant...

 

^Trying to start a picture food fight in the vegetarian forum?

You guys from Philly have no table manners at all.

 

I have large elbows that must be supported by objects while eating, lest they hit the floor and rumble the appetite right out of you......

 

^Well you should at least learn chew with your mouth closed.

 

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