Vegetarian?

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by JackStraw675, Nov 9, 2006.

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  1. earthmomma

    earthmomma Senior Member

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    no he's comparing hitler to a murderer!
     
  2. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Oh right. My apologies.
     
  3. gratefulvegan

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    What a lame answer. Sorry, but you've lost your argument you want to provoke so much.

    I really do not see how I have lost my argument. Your allegation was that I claimed to be intellectually superior to you and meat-eaters in general, which I never did. You really are one smarmy guy.
     
  4. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    What the hell gives you the right to question my personal choices?! Also, humans started eating meat when they became intelligent enough to do so, through hunting.
     
  5. gratefulvegan

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    What the hell gives you the right to question my personal choices?! Also, humans started eating meat when they became intelligent enough to do so, through hunting.

    What gave civil rights advocates the right to question those who wanted to deny minorities basic rights? And no, I am not comparing plights here...I am simply making a connection to illustrate this concept. I have the right to question your personal choices because they are infringing upon the well-being of a third party, if they were only affecting you- I would never question these acts.

    I don't know how much intelligence it takes to stick a spear through a roaming animal, but if you want to believe that- go ahead. Truth is those people were not living in a time when domestication was the wide spread norm. Sustainability is in issue, and the meat industry is not only horrible for the animals, but also for the earth.
     
  6. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    Jewish people ARE animals, so is ever other human!

    the Holocaustal imprisonment, torture, and killing of Hitlers regain, is exactly the same as the imprisonment, torture, and killing of livestock animals.
    what difference do you see? other than millions of humans where tortured and killed in the Holocaust, while billons of animals are tortured and killed every year.
     
  7. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Animals kill other animals. So if we're animals we're just doing what comes natural for us to eat.
     
  8. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Look, I don't care how much you're trying to say what I do is wrong, I enjoy it and you have no right to say otherwise. It is a personal choice:

    Besides, there's alot more important things in the world than saving a turkey. How about famine/war/pollution on a greater scale? You're too caught up in other peoples choice to eat meat. Shutup and stop arguing with my beliefs. I havn't argued with yours, but merely defended my right to eat meat.
     
  9. gratefulvegan

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    How is altering my diet at all affecting my ability to take part in these other projects?
     
  10. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    My main diet is cheese but do eat some meat. I think by depriving yourself of iron etc, you are doing more harm than good. It is the reason why many veges need to take lots of vitimins and minerals. But it is their choice.
     
  11. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    This is a common myth; a varied vegetarian diet can provide all the essential proteins, fats and micronutrients the body needs.
     
  12. J0hn

    J0hn Phantom

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    Pilchards have Omega 3 and Eggplant is quite rich in vits and mins.
     
  13. lithium

    lithium frogboy

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    Pilchards are animals:rolleyes::tongue:
     
  14. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    nobody's saying you don't enjoy it. haha.
    you join a discussion about vegetarianism and you don't expect a differing view?
    personally, i have already told you i agree that you opinion is as good as any.
    haha, ok.
    so i guess your done rationally debating, thats cool.
     
  15. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    Personally i would not want to live in a world where i would have to harm another living being to survive. luckly i dont, and i can survive and live a healthy life without meat, foul, fish, dairy, eggs, and other animal products.
     
  16. ChristadelicFlower

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    I've been a vegetarian for 3 years :) currently easing myself into veganism
     
  17. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Every day I like to remind myself that my canines have no other use than rending meat and that my intestines are halfway between the length of a pure carnivore and your average pure herbivore.
     
  18. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Yes, because all I've had off GratefulVegan is "you're wrong." basically.
     
  19. gratefulvegan

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    Honestly, L.A. I do respect your views though I value them as being critically wrong, however, I am willing to debate this with an open mind. I was once a hard-core carnivore and am now a vegan (so obviously I am very open to change and input from other sources). I really just think you have fallen into the typical argumentative state of ad-hominem attacks on me and assertive statements.
     
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    Eating meat is both healthy and [font=&quot]sustainable. It's being a vegetarian [/font] that requires supplements!
    If we are nothing to this world then animals are slightly less than nothing.
    In the end I want to have the meat of thousands and thousands of animals in my big fat greedy belly
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