Vegetarian?

Rainbow Magnolia, Bilby, Salmon, Whiskers, you guys rock! Wish we could all get together and have a feast. Anything ya want, I'll cook...

 

I am not here to argue but nothing I said was as much of a cheap shot as you swearing at people. The reason I said I agreed was so you would add me to the list of people's posts you wont read. If you dont read my posts for now on I will stop responding to yours. Even when we agree on things.

Oh and before werts post you said this.

So... I wouldn't say wert started it at all.


Earthmother I would love to meat up with any of you guys one day.

 

I swore at someone who called me a "moron" and posted insulting lies at
about me.

Behavior that you seem to think is perfectly okay.

That's obviously a lie. If you didn't want someone to read your posts, you
wouldn't keep posting to them.

Who do you think you are fooling?

You are obviously a very dishonest person. Having you _say_ that you agreed
with me wouldn't be worth a thing.

Judging from your behavior, they are a lot worse than that.

Sorry. I have no desire to eat animal products. I don't want to participate in
the destruction of our planet, and furthermore, I think it is wrong to feed all
those protein-rich grains and legumes to animals while millions of people,
many of them children, starve to death every day.

When you could just eat a fraction of those grains and legumes and send
the rest overseas to feed the starving people.

And all this goes on just because you and millions of others
like you enjoy the taste of animal foods.

Pretty sad.

I am going to continue to read and respond to your posts because you
are the perfect spokesperson for the animal foods addict faction of the
human race.

It is good for people to see just what you really are.

By-the-way: If you don't like what I have to say, meat-pig, feel free
to kiss my ass.

LIttlefoot

 

Whiskers123 wrote: "Earthmother I would love to meat up with any of you guys one day."

What you animal products addicts don't seem to understand, is that herbies ('vegans')
eat plants. We don't "not-eat-animal-products". That kind of negative mental orientation
is characteristic only of people who are still addicted to animal products.

I don't think of myself as a person who doesn't eat animal products. I think of myself
as a person who eats plants. If I think about the subject at all outside of forums like
this.

It all begins in your mind. That's where the real change takes place. As long as you
let the animal-product addicts convince you that only animal products taste good
and will make you healthy, then they own you.

In order to control your behavior, they _must_ control your mind.

And the trillion-dollar industries that support their addiction own
a lot scientists who can come up with reams of 'scientific evidence'
to back up their beliefs.

Of course, we know what a silly game that is. How often do
we see battling scieintists in courtrooms offering reams of "scientific
evidence' supporting two opposite conclusions based upon the
same data? Happens every day.

Scientists are just people. Taking a bunch of science courses at
a university does not protect them from the political, economic,
and ideological pressures. It does not make them less prone to
self-serving ethical lapses than the average person .

To be fair, most of them don't realize that this is what they are doing. They
really believe that animal products are necessary for health and an enjoyable
meal, because that's what everyone has been telling them, and acting on,
since they were tiny children.

When someone like Whiskers123 makes an invitation like that, it's because he
really thinks that us herbies live in a constant state of self-denial. That we
secretly want to eat the foods that they eat.

That's part of their willful ignorance. They won't open their minds.

What he doesn't realize is that he may as well have invited me to
stop by and share a platter of week-old shit. Or a bowl of dirt.

I really have trouble, after decades of eating only plants, believing
anyone eats animal products. The very idea is repulsive and stupid
to me.

But fools always believe that everyone else is really just like them.

LIttlefoot

"The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a
comfortable living from a small piece of land."

-- Abraham Lincoln

 

Whiskers, How does this sound? Big bonfire, good company. Vegetarian chili made from organic homegrown produce, Whole wheat biscuits, fresh green salad with lemon and honey dressing, side dish of poke greens and stalks sauteed in olive oil with garlic, side dish with cheese and butter for those who use it, and fresh barbecue venison for those who like meat. Something for everybody, all healthy food, all environmentally friendly. My place, Christmas Eve. I know we can all get along.

(Well, the part about Christmas eve is right anyhow, I don't know what folks are bringin'.....)

 

Can I join you all, earthmother?

 

Hello loonieflowermaiden. As you know, my filter deletes your messages, so I haven't seen
what you and EarthSmother have shared with everyone else.

But I know animal food addicts, and given the posts you are responding to, I'm willing
to bet a lot that you are going on about eating animal foods as if this was some great
accomplishment.

Because you think this bothers us herbies.

Sorry, meat-pigs. But we are not responsible for your behavior. We are only
responsible for our own behavior. Your crimes are yours and yours alone.

Back on topic...

Wow! You can actually go to a store and pick animal foods off the shelf and take them
home and shovel them into your mouths.

We are all s=o--o-o-o impressed! You can do what any chimpanzee can be trained
to do in an hour.

I wonder how much you women weigh. Bet you are both porkers. Virtue is its own
reward and sin is its own punishment....



Note: What are the odds of two blabbermouth women with perfect
hippy names showing up at the same time on a thread where their
shared opinions are obviously going to do nothing but cause trouble?
Can you say "troll", boys and girls? I could easily sign up on these
forums a dozen times using different names and profiles. Any idiot
could. All you need is a lack of honesty, a lack of courage, a
lack of a life, and a dynamic IP. Which most home ISP accounts have.

Littlefoot

The main difference between a heroin addict and an animal product
addict is that the junkie knows he or she is an addict.

 

Absolutely!

 

Some good friends of mine had solstice and equinox dinner parties for many years. They called them food orgies. Everyone brought something to share, and the tables were set and decorated like in the fanciest of restaraunts. There was lots of music played, and everyone "of age" would chip in on some "adult refreshments" which HAD to all be consumed before we went home. (hippy rules) Great fun. When we had a functioning commune in NY we had once a month dinners in which we did a different ethnic meal each time, and always with things that were grown on the farm. Some folks were vegetarians and some were not, but there was always plenty for all. One time we tried as many different ways to use wild rose hips as we could think of, even rose hip soup. Which was sort of weird.
I have some favorite wild foods, so have lambs quarters, milk weed, and poke growing in their own patch in the corner of the garden. That way I don't have to search too far for those things. Anybody have any other favorite wild foods?

 

"Are you a vegetarian? Yes. No." It's the thread, meaning people can obviously talk about being a vegetarian, and NOT being a vegetarian.

I'm really impressed by all those people who didn't get angry! It could've been easy to lol

Ok so back on topic:
I basically eat what I want to. I think that what you feel like eating is what your body needs. It's what wild animals do lol. As long as you have a good idea about health and food requirements, what makes you feel good is probably what you need. With exeptions, of course!

 

That sounds like heaps of fun

 

We could be but not necessarily. The original question was,
Are you a vegetarian? A fairly open ended question I would have thought. For this reason it would not belong in the Vegetarian Forum, nor would mentioning about buying half a sheep.

The vegetarian forum is here,

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=66

In this thread you have breached point 4 of posting guidelines in at least fourteen posts.If I was the mod here I would have deleted these posts. While I have lost count of the amount of spam that I deleted, so far I have only ever deleted four posts. Reading this thread makes me wonder if someone has a valid argument, why would they need to resort breaching point 4 of posting guidelines? I have also been thinking that the term bigoted hippy is a contradiction in terms.

If you find a post that is spam, harassment or extremely offensive then use the report button (looks like a small triangular road sign) at the bottom left hand corner but don’t use it just because you disagree. Remember there is no such thing as a correct or incorrect opinion.

 

A reasonable point. But not relevant to what's been happenning here. You
are starting off by trying to focus everyone's attention on a tangential
issue.

I'm aware of it. Why preach to the converted?

So have others. A lot of them. Name-calling and posting insulting lies about me,
and off-topic posts that were nothing but ad hominem attacks...

And I don't believe you about the 14 posts. I think you are lying.

Let's see the URLS to the pages and directions to the specific offenses.

But that would take work, wouldn't it? And you don't do anything but
talk...

But you would have left the equally out-of-bounds posts of the animal
product addicts.

Got your number..

That's why you are not a moderator.

Never seen any spam on these forums, myself. So I don't believe you. And I don't
think you can prove it.

You are just trying to be dramatic.

Now you are calling me names and trying to avoid taking the responsibility for
it with clever phrasing.

But it's okay to be a hypocrite if you are an animal foods addict, right?

You can't complain, nor can most of the other people here who
agree with you, because you don't dare bring your posting history
to the attention of Skip and the other folks at the top.

And some of you can't complain because the fact that you were
trolls would quickly be revealed by a cursory examination of
the logs by anyone with root access to the servers.

So you are trying to get others to do your dirty and cowardly
work for you.

Because you are a bully. And bullies just can't take it when
someone they think they should be able to push around
stands up to them.

You think that your diet makes you strong and tough and that
I am supposed to be a passive wimp because of my diet.

Think you are toough, animal product addict? Email me. I'll send you
my address.

We'll get together and see what's what.

I'm not worried about you taking me up on the offer. All
bullies are cowards at heart. And all trolls do is run their
mouths while they hide behind the Internet.

That's an incredibly ignorant statement.

Some opinions are accurate and informed, and some are not.

Animal product addicts with typical Amrican-style diets do significantly
more harm to the environment than herbies ('vegans') do.

That's a fact. Anyone who has a contrary opinion has an incorrect opinion.

I could cite 10 thousand other examples of incorrect opinions. Obviously.

When are you going to engage me in an honest debate about the relative
merits of animal product and herby llifestyles instead of playing games
like this?

What are you afraid of?

The truth, obviously.


Littlefoot


"The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a
comfortable living from a small piece of land."

-- Abraham Lincoln

 

Bibly wrote: "If I was the mod here I would have deleted these posts [of LIttlefoot; me]."

And you obviously wouldn't delete the posts of abusive, dishonest, and ignorant animal
product addicts that were also in violation of the Forums' netiquette.

I would welcome a moderator here. If some of my posts was denied then I would
re-write them and re-submit them. It wouldn't take me long to learn what the boundaries
were.

Wouldn't alter my message in the least.

You know that perfectly well. It isn't my style that bothers you. You are just
pretending that it does. Your style isn't much different.

But the example being set by so many others here obviously doesn't follow the
Forums' netiquette either, so I would not be the only one changing my behavior.

But you are obviously not interested in the Forums' netiquette at all, having flagrantly
violated it here yourself and are simply using it as a cover for another personal
attack directed at me.

Because you are a bully who is also an animal foods addict who believes that he
has a right to suppress free speech.

That's what you are trying to do: Gag the intelligent and learned and experienced herby.

You want to confine the debate to matters of personal health, where it is possible to find
endless quotes from reputable scientists supporting each side of the issue.

You want to ignore the other aspects of the animal product addict's diet. The unnecessary
damage to the environment and use of non-renewable resources.

Wars fought over control of the enormous areas of land; and the water and energy needed
to support your diet style.

The expolited people (illegal aliens) used by the meatpacking industry.
The exploited labor used by farmers so that you can get plant products
cheaply and use the savings to buy animal products with.

The fact that Americans grow enough grains and legumes to feed not only
themselves, but all of the starving people in the world, but they choose to
feed it to animals instead, because they like they taste of them.

The enormous subsidies of the animal products industrial complex from
the Federal and State and Local Governments.

That's enough for here and now.

There's more that you don't want to hear. But they won't go away
just because you don't want to contemplate them.

Littlefoot

The main difference between a heroin addict and an animal product
addict is that the junkie knows he or she is an addict.

 

That does sound like a lot of fun. I agree with LauraMay .