But my question is...can you really help who you fall in love with? What if he/she is perfect except he/she still eats chicken? And how, Kilgore Trout, did you convert your gf's? They must not be able to stick to their own guns...
Then they're not perfect are they! Seriously.....it depends how important it it is to you, if you really want to meet the 'perfect' partner then they'll be on your wavelength. If you're not bothered if they're a veggie then it's not a problem is it?
whether or not those girls were not able to stick to their guns depends on what he means by "convert." there's converting someone in negative ways, and positive ways. my guess (and it's just a guess, so correct me if i'm wrong kilgore, i don't know your situation so i can't really speak for you) is that he and his ex/girlfriends engaged in some sort of discourse about the meat industry, health, animal rights, or whatever their bag is (and any combination of those things). and then that discourse can lead to open eyes and open hearts. perhaps his former (and maybe current?) girlfriends were ignorant about what was going on, and they hadn't really given it much thought, or saw vegetarianism as feasible.. but maybe having an objective, open discussion with a vegetarian helped them understand vegetarianism. it's possible that they hadn't given it much thought, or that they never considered eating meat as a conscious decision, or were aware of how accesible other options are. ...but then there's converting with an adgenda, which is different. i'll spend jewish holidays with my man, but that does not mean i'm going to convert to judaism. i respect his beliefs; i am not going to preach to him that there is no god, and i appriciate the fact that he doesn't try to convince me that i am damned for my beliefs (or lack thereof). likewise, i appriciate it when he cooks me veggie stir-fry for dinner, or takes me out to a vegetarian restaurant, but i can't change him. we can talk about our beliefs, but trying to convince him to go veg would be like him trying to convince me to eat meat. he respects my beliefs and i respect his, though we don't have to agree about our beliefs. if kilgore went around dating omnivores because he wants to convert them into vegetarians, that's no better than christian missionaries pushing their own adgenda. if he's using rhetoric and threats of ending the relationship to scare the girls into going veg, then that's wrong and the women are weak. likewise, if they only did it to please him, then that is also weak. from the way kilgore said it, it sounds like the ladies remained veg after the breakups (again i'm guessing, so correct me if i'm wrong). so they most likely really did believe in it, and just needed some information and awareness tossed their way. if it was just an inablity for the ladies to stand up for their beliefs, then they would probably break their vegetarianism right after the breakup. also, when dating a veg it is easier for a fence-sitter to be swayed. when i dated a vegan, he was always cooking vegan food, and we were always going to restaurants where vegan and vegetarian foods were served. so it's easier to stop eating meat (or dairy or whatever) when it's not around. going out to eat was really relaxing, neither of us had to worry about menu options. but if you're trying to go veg and are always eating at steakhouses, then you will probably not see it as a feasible lifestyle for you. that might actually confim the "belief" held by many non-vegs, that vegs only eat salads.
I have main three standards for the people I date: 1. They treat me well. 2. They respect me. 3. They're a good person. There are other things, of course, but those are the main ones I look for. I can ignore other things, but if you don't fit any of those three standards, we're done. I don't think those expectations are unreasonable. I don't believe that eating meat goes against my top 3 standards. As I've said in the past, it's a personal decision I've made with my life and what you decide to do with your life is your decision. I'm a big fan of making up your own mind on your life decisions. As long as the person I dates respects my beliefs, I will respect theirs.
I am a newbie when it comes to being veggie (only one week) but I have been with my man almost 5 years. He is a meat eater but I love him. Now that I know the truth about factory farming and the torture of the animals it hurts sometimes to see him eat meat but its his choice. Besides there is still time to make him understand, and if he never does...I can't help but love him. We will learn to cope with this. When we get married he is just going to have to shop for and cook his own meat if he wants any. (if, of course, he's still an omnivore by then
I'm Veggie, If I date, I do the cooking, ( Surprise what a decent home made Veggie curry can do ), and I don't eat out at places that sell murdered beings.
Never dated a vegetarian/vegan. It really doesn't seem right to refuse a relationship with someone over fuckin food, but it would be cool, I think.
Who mentioned food fucking?!? Seriously.....it's not as simple as saying 'I don't like cake therefore I don't want to be with a cake eater'. For a lot of veggies it's about the ethics and animal industry rather than their personal taste or diets. That's why it comes down to how strongly you feel about it. For me, I really abhor meat-eating and therefore would not want to be with anyone who eat meat because I wouldn't want to feel like that toward them. I have plenty of friends who eat meat but I'm not gonna live with them or fuck them.
When I became veg, I had already been with my now fiancee for over a year. Now, I wish that he was veg, but I love him, and always will, whether he shares my beliefs or not. All I know is, I will hound him to go veggie, and I will stick to my own guns, and I'll do whatever I know to do to convince him that it's a better choice. Honestly, though, the best thing for a meat-eater to see to convince them to give it up is a happy, healthy vegetarian. My fiancee has cut down considerably on meat, just by being around me for so long. xoxo, Seashell
Well,actually there is problem ,i nmy country there is no too many poepole who are veg, or vegans... But,it's not important ,cuz i don't really care if he is vegeterian or not.That's not problem...
I am an on / off veggie... its really difficult because I live with my parents and its difficult to tell my mum I wont eat the food she has made me for dinner... I wouldnt mind dating a veggie, but I would always feel bad about eating meat because they were so against it.... I would feel like I was ... I dont know, doing them wrong I guess
i doubt i will ever date anyone who eats meat at all. if i am going to be in a relationship with someone then i want them to have the same values about animal rights that i do (it's THAT important to me).
Good on you Elle, but people are trainable, sometimes dating non Veggies gives one a crack at converting them + introducing them to Quorn or Linda stuff or home made veggie curries etc + usually even after its all ended they will have replaced some meals with veggie / vegan ones
Hehe. You're so right. Everyone I've dated has converted to veg. For that matter, *I* was converted by someone I dated. Aagh, it's like some sexually transmitted disease!!
true.....infact i am trying to get one of my ex's to go veggie (better late than never) he's almost there, i'm just there for encouragement. the way i see it is......i absolutley want that person i'm with to hold all the same values, love and respect for animals and their lives as i do....and if they feel the same way then they are probably already veggie if i would have to make an effort at converting them then it's not likely we share the same values........i'm a picky gal what can i say