vegan rules???

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by ninny, Dec 31, 2004.

  1. ninny

    ninny Member

    I got a question for all you vegans out there, do u guys eat honey since it is still somewhat of an animal product? Someone told me u don't. Just checkin'.

    Thanks niNnY
  2. acetonephish

    acetonephish lickage

    No, vegans dont eat honey.
  3. ninny

    ninny Member

    didnt think so, thanks a lot :)
  4. Wanda

    Wanda Member

    Well, some vegans do actually.
    Especially here in America a lot of vegans would eat honey and food marked as 'vegan' could contain honey. This is now slowely changing.
  5. ryupower

    ryupower NO capcom included

    I asked this question before! :D
  6. ninny

    ninny Member

    lol woops!
  7. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Lifetime Supporter

    personal choice, but the "correct" answer is to avoid ANY animal/insect parts.
    many vegans do use honey in lieu of bone char sugar
  8. whispers

    whispers sweet and sour

    how is it possible to avoid insects.....they are a natural part of farming and harvest?
  9. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Lifetime Supporter

    when one eats /uses honey, one is DIRECTLY using a substance that killed at least some insects.
    sure, bugs are in crops, and many get crushed, but we have alternatives to honey. Most people use grains in their diet (however unrecognizable they are)
    Fewer bees die as a resylt of farming beets than harvesting honey (large operations are quick and careless, as long as the queen and her enterouge are safe. the others do die over the winter as part of the cycle)

    go look up the federal limits for insect parts in chocolate.
  10. PriceCheck

    PriceCheck Senior Member

    That seems back-asswards to me. Using a definite direct animal product to replace a maybe-involved-a-by-product plant food? I'm glad I don't follow other people's lable definitions, they're often a bit silly.
  11. Wanda

    Wanda Member

  12. whispers

    whispers sweet and sour

    thanks for the link.................
  13. Wanda

    Wanda Member

    There's a lot of useful stuff out there online and I've tried to organize it a bit on my links page.
    'Honey' you would be able to find under 'Information by Subject' for instance.
  14. DancerAnnie

    DancerAnnie Resident Beach Bum

    Someone once asked me if vegans eat honey and I said no, but they gave the arguement that if you don't eat honey you shouldn't eat fruits either because bees pollinate fruit trees (or something like that), I thought that kind of made sense...what do you think?
  15. minjeig

    minjeig Member

    hmm, i'd say thats a bit different, just because (from what i understand) bees are actually killed directly as a result of honey being produced, wheras with fruit the bees just pollinate it and thats the end of it. you aren't harming a bee by eating the fruit of its labour (holy crap i'm hilarious. and i didn't even mean to be!)
  16. PriceCheck

    PriceCheck Senior Member

    That's a good one for the "Dumbest thing an omni has said to you" thread.
  17. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Lifetime Supporter

    come on this board isn't big enough to list dumb omni tricks.
    ask if they corral the bees and round them up (they sort of do)
    now, if one has really bad allergies and occasional local raw honey works, that is better in MY book than vaccines with egg protien.
    But I'm a huge supporter of "lower on the food chain" as a way to wean society from the high on the chain ways it loves so.
    no revolution here, just evolution
  18. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Lifetime Supporter

    an intuitive guess is that there is a distinction between animal and insect and going for the lesser evil.

    all hail aguave nectar. stevia and barley and rice syrups.
  19. RainbowCat

    RainbowCat Senior Member

    are bees hurt while maknig the honey?
  20. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

    I don't eat honey or use products with it in.

    I feel that it's unfair to use animals for anything. Bees make the honey for themselves not us. If a bee came up to me and offered me some honey it would be rude to say no, but they don't do they?:p

    Love Clairexxx

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