Vectored thrust

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  1. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    your flight time goes to hell though with the weight of batteries/the thrust to weight ratio of the motors

    and, that's assuming you use the EXACT same method as the harrier, the method you are talking about is VERY different from that the harrier uses, yo make an analog with ducted fans you would put it near the front of your plane, and redirect the thrust tht would go out the exhaust nozzle, and instead through six (eight?) nozzzles under the anhedral wings, which just won't work

    there is a difference between making it work, and making it work exactly as the actual plane does

    your method is closer to the f-35
     
  2. lode

    lode Banned

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    I'd rather have a jet pack.
     
  3. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    I can't get an adequate representation of the thrust ports on an F-35, so I'm not sure. But I'm talking about exactly the way a Harrier is vectored. Rotating exhaust nozzles with louvered lateral trim. But you're correct, even with a tubular Ti frame and skin, the battery weight required to operate 4 servos for vectoring, two for elevators, one for rudder and one for throttle would screw the weight to thrust ratio. Sorry. Old tech doesn't work with modern thought... sometimes...
     
  4. bluesafire

    bluesafire Senior Member

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    can't we talk about something interesting like boobs or makeup?
     
  5. lode

    lode Banned

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    It's 2009, wheres my fucking jet pack.
     
  6. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    You people are just threatened by the intelligence and flowing creativity of budding aerospace engineers.

    Cretins.
     
  7. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    now, if we had batteries with better mAh per oz, maybe we could do something like that with fans, but right now I think the options are rotors, or propellers, the problem with both is, they're just fucking ugly in a jet.

    and, of course, big surface area

    Alternatively, you could custom build a fan for REALLY high RPM, and then purpose build exhaust and things, but the math and fabrication would be stupid

    also finding a super high RPM motor that won't light your plane on fire.




    I should just build an RC ekranoplan.
     
  8. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    You can't get enough focused thrust out of a propeller.

    Yeah, you know ugly.
     
  9. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    you'd have to use a prop and puffers, or redirect all of the props thrust through something louvered to focus it, the problem would be massive variations because the propeller would flex, and change the instantaneous thrust everywhere under it (among other abnormalities of props)
     
  10. A-Bear's-Vagina

    A-Bear's-Vagina 2 Kings Chapter 2 23-24

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    what about plasma accelerators on future rockets?
     
  11. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    OK so a pair of ducted fans powered by a single, one-cylinder compression engine.
     
  12. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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  13. Dave_techie

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    one cyl is really quite efficient in some ways.

    and, chemical fuel can store enough energy

    but, you wouldn't get to have an electric plane, but, you know, seems to be reason for that kind of sacrifice.
     
  14. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    OK send me the drawings, I'll have it CAD'd, spec'd and parted and we'll get it built.
     
  15. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    I need to learn to CAD myself, I can't draw for shit.
     
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