Vandalizing "support the troops" ribbons

I'll use an example:

My stepdad is a very nice person, but he supports the war.

Therefore, he supports what some people can see as genocide.

Just like there were some really nice German people who supported Hitler.

 

You get the blue ribbon in logic.

 

"And how about those naughty hooligans who vandalized British tea in Boston about 225 years ago. Why can't people just fall into line the way they're supposed to."

 

I think your stepdad and the germans get a blue ribbon for lemming like stupidity

 

Okay when you get your car I'll take the bumper stickers off your car and replace it with something I like.

 

Hmm maybe Im a bit tired today.
If someone went round with a big banner on his car reading "Gas all Jews" or "burn all pakis" and someone tore it off , would people be saying" how dare you vandalise banner and his right to hate jews"?


Yes I would.


I dont support American troops because theyre commiting a genocide.Not everyone wants to admit it openly , but deep down most people know its the same sort of shit the SS used to do.

Of course you still miss the point, Those people DO support the troops and they have a right to express it. Someone taking the sticker off their car and replacing it with another is infringing on their rights.

 

What's going on in Iraq doesn't meet any strict legal definition of genocide. It's simply inflammatory.

And as much as I generally support crime. You're not helping your cause by childish vandalism.

 

ultimately their cause is infringing on innocent middle easterners' right to live, so i feel just as justified replacing a magnet as i would defacing your "Gas the Jews" banner if Jews were being gassed at said time, and it was a national crisis. I think you're a bit tired today.

 

ultimately their cause is infringing on innocent middle easterners' right to live,



And by killing the one's that wouldn’t allow you or them to live. Genocide and sectarian violence was occurring before western occupation.





so i feel just as justified replacing a magnet as i would defacing your "Gas the Jews" banner if Jews were being gassed at said time,

and it was a national crisis.



Then I and you have different opinions on free speech. Comparing the holocaust to the war in Iraq is pure demagoguery; Saddam was gassing the Kurds well before you or I was born. So far the only people committing genocides are the Muslim dogmatists eliminating people of very slightly opposing faith.





I think you're a bit tired today.



Safe to say both of us.

 

it's entirely too early in the conversation for hitler references. it's always hitler. what about the khmer rouge? ghengis khan, SOMETHING else.

no, i don't think for a second it's genocide.

 

I think people who support the war are idiots but I fail to see how defacing their property will help them see the light of day.

The perpetrators of this heinous crime are simply bored kids. If they really want to protest their anti-war stance, I don't think that vandalising others property is an effective way of doing it.

 

I don't think it's necessarily childish if it changes the way people think. i mean apparently this has caused a stir otherwize we wouldn't be talking about it. That goes far beyond childish vandalism.

 

How could this possibly change the way anybody thinks?

If you had a 'PEACE" sticker on your car and somebody changed it to a "Support all wars" sticker, would it affect your opinion on anything other than their intelligence?

There are plenty of more productive methods to voice your opposition without letting others think that you are stupid or disrespectful.

 

its vandalisimi if you remove private property from someone elses property or engage in the removal of someone elses personal belongings. you don't have any right to remove a bumper sticker from someone elses car. if you think thats right, then the person who puts a burning cross on your lawn is right.

and yea, your age does come into effect. you are 15. you haven't experienced much of any life at all. at almost 23 i haven't experienced much. so to say age shouldn't come into effect is quite ignorant

 

Regardless of what I think of the war, I don't support people trashing other people's stuff, regardless what those people are like or what they believe.

 

the trouble with tearing up crap, is that even if you don't get in any kind of trouble for doing so, you're still left in a world with a bunch of torn up crap.

maybe stickers that say "support the troups" in some sort of psuedoarabic looking script might come closer to rattling right wing loonies disused little grey cells.

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read has been said. Support the troops is neo con apologista's way of saying "support the war, but sorry about the dead kids", because the two are one in the same. Don't just jump in and reply to the last post. READ so i don't have to repeat myself. I'm not the one committing these "heinous" crimes bear in mind. I just think- fuck it i've already said what i have to say. if you want to read it read it. if you want to criticize it read it.

 

Military men are dumb, stupid, animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy. Henry A. Kissinger

(quoted in "Kiss the Boys Goodbye")

Dutton 1990 page 97 citing 'The final days' Woodward and Bernstein
(published Simon and Shuster) 1976

 

I support the trashing of other peoples stuff.. if the people doing the trashing hold my views.

I don't have a set rule such as:

-War is always wrong
-Vandalizing property is always wrong

The thing is.. most people think like this, even if they don't realise it.

i.e. 'I support the murder of people in Iraq, but i don't support the vandalizing of my neighbourhood'

 

Kissinger was one HELL of a guy. The fact that he goes on record saying that ... That fucking guy is like the Sinatra of diplomacy. He did it his way. Evil as hell though.