Value of life.

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by FlyingFly, Oct 1, 2012.

  1. I don't like all these things either, but genocide might not be the answer. Hopefully science will lead way to giving our lives some external meaning, at least in decisive mystery, or yeah, who's to say what's right and wrong, ultimately? And the fact that unintelligent people are selfish people will be our destruction, because might makes right in such a world. The ultimate intelligence is simply THE FACT that someone else can destroy you. So be selfish and seek personal power, and we'll become a world of villains.

    Which is the danger, because honest people who look at the facts, real intellectuals, are being bullied by phony intellectuals who declare that life has no meaning, because it serves their goals of not having to worry about their actions. They're just being normal people.

    I mean, if you're talking about intelligence, you're talking about the smartest way to behave in the world, which is dictated by how the world is. If we're all dead meat, people are going to act like none of this matters. That's where we're at now. A reasonable doubt as to the nature of man has been cast, and therefore no one is morally to blame for their own actions. They're just innocent creatures making a mistake at worst.

    I do understand the severity of the situation. People are being tricked and bullied into believing they're just bullshit twenty-four hours a day. The situation is dire and if we don't start acting like men, like Star Trek men, this place is going to go to the dogs and we'll revert back to cavemen. However, I don't think that murdering people is a solution. It would be a sour way to begin the future.
     
  2. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    verminous plague:
    Are you deaf, you stunted slime? This one doesn't learn. Drown it in crackwhores.
     
  3. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    neonspectraltoast:
    Have you got something against Spock?
     
  4. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    Verminous, I do see what you're saying.. and I agree to the extent that a lot of people are left in a shit situation.. but that's the whole point.

    Life is life, no matter what.. it is fucking incredible that "things" are even able to experience these shit circumstances that you want to eliminate them from.. but what you're proposing is going to be like the war on drugs.. a big, futile, pointless waste of time and money that could be spent helping these people..
    On top of that, you're being incredibly ignorant of other peoples situations.

    People come from different backgrounds.. I have been fortunate enough to come in contact with a wide variety of people, some living in complete shit and others wallowing in cash.. and honestly, everyone's as bad and as good as each other. Everyone has their own story, just because it doesn't match your own doesn't mean you're any better or any worse than whoever you choose as your comparison.

    Life isn't all sugar and candy.. watch NatGeo for 20 minutes. Yes, as humans we are conscious beings that are able to think for ourselves and question our own circumstances.. but using that gift to eliminate others is a complete fucking abuse of that power.

    Turn your hate into love, try helping these people get their lives "on track". By murdering these "crackwhores", you're resetting that individuals chances of experiencing.. be that another toot of crack, or rehabilitation, and the chance of helping others in the same situation with experience of that same situation.
    You know nothing of what anyone else is going through, has been through, or has yet to go through.

    Why do you feel you're so special, so superior, that you think you have the authority to take someone else's life because they don't meet your standards?

    It's ideologies like yours that make the world such a fucking ballache. This bullshit superiority complex is the reason for "Holy Wars", racism, murder, and every other "wrong doing" on the planet.



    You have hit a nerve, and make of this post what you will.. bottom line is you're acting like an naive idiot. Wake up, and pop your fucking bubble of perfection.

    It doesn't exist.
     
  5. verminous_plague

    verminous_plague Banned

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    Yeah you see what's going on now, everyone's just skirting the real issues. Are we as a society going to ever get serious about not allowing degenerates to ruin lives by getting pregnant and having children with severe challenges? This is the question you all need to ask yourself, look in the mirror and stop pretending like life is this unpredictable fairy tale where there's good and bad but in the end everything's just swell.

    we have big problems on this planet and it's not nuclear weapons, it's not black holes it's everyday humans being allowed to spawn and create this culture of degeneracy and the poor children with no chance. don't you care about those poor children living in the ghettos and the slums? they didn't ask for that kind of life, if we ever got serious they wouldn't have been born in the first place and wouldn't be forced to live an inferior life and end up hooked on drugs or die young because their brain never developed properly! wake up people, we have business to take care of. we need to decide what kind of parents we are and who we won't allow to parent.
     
  6. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    are you related ta hitler verm ?
     
  7. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    It is said that it takes 10000 hours to become virtuous at some profession.
    Where do you find the time to do all three?
     
  8. He makes no sense to me.
     
  9. MeatyMushroom

    MeatyMushroom Juggle Tings Proppuh

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    What's the society you want to "protect"?
     
  10. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Live long and prosper.
     
  11. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Meatymushroom:
    He'd like to travel business class being hooked on economy.
    Safety instructions are in the seat in front of him.
     
  13. What are the exact parameters of what we can and can't do? Can we smoke cigarettes? Can we dress funny and/or have messy hair?
     
  14. verminous_plague

    verminous_plague Banned

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    no you see you're turning what I'm saying into a fascist movement or totalitarian system, it's not. It's the simple truth that we as humanity must decide who we keep and who we lose because we are all in this together ultimately and we can't have parasites or leaches sucking off of the good families and the productive. this is really not controversial. and like i said before, degenerates need a way out. they desperately beg for it. so I think it's time we give it to them.
     
  15. scratcho

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    The CONSTANT use of WE instead of another qualifier,tells me that you wish to include yourself among the living. Not so fast there,Fritz. Some of US(otherwise known as WE) may decide that you should be among the first to go,should your well thought out plan come to fruition.
    And if WE decide so,I'm sure you'll think it fair.
     
  16. verminous_plague

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    there you go fighting fire with fire. an eye for an eye. but you miss my point entirely. i don't support murdering people. I support breaking the chains off of the unwanted, sick, the mentally inferior, the degenerates to give them new life. death is just one step of the process no one knows the next step, we all hope for an afterlife. but we can't sit around hoping for one without being bold and taking action. sometimes blood must be shed for change to take effect, like establishing a nation perhaps. in this case we are freeing the lost souls from their bondage and that the goal is to free their souls from living an inferior lifestyle so as to they can live on in some afterlife, maybe ascend to a higher level of living. life isn't this materialist world we've been given. there is more out there, parallel universes according to scientists. so we need to stop being weak and scared domesticated sheep and understand, sacrifice is necessary to forge a new beginning!
     
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    What if they are just as disabled, sick, or 'mentally inferior' in their afterlife?

    I've been lurking this conversation for awhile now. I feel as though you are coming off as either a troll, or a cynical fascist with an out of tune moral compass. You've had to much time to think about what's wrong with the world. Supporting those who cannot support themselves, keeping those alive who cannot keep themselves alive, are marks of a civilized nation/society.

    Throwing what you consider to be 'rejects' off of the cliff after birth is no different from the spartans of ancient greece. Killing the sick and disabled we have amongst us makes you no different from the nazis. Fuck your reasoning for it. I could rationalize a lot of horrific shit just because i feel as though it's 'necessary'.

    The greater good is a relative term to everyone who perceives it, but once you sterilize the community of the naturally disabled you take away the means to study and cure whatever it is they're burdened with. There is a more civilized way to your 'final solution' and everyone except you, seems to know this.

    Whether you like it or not, this world will advance with the people your calling unworthy in tote. We will do it happily. Because those people are loved ones to someone else, or ourselves. We love them. We care for them. What your trying to sell us labeled 'mercy' isn't mercy. Its something far more ugly and savage.
     
  18. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    No parasites OR leeches. Genius. We can produce an omelette and eat it too, but to do so we have to sacrifice an antelope to keep the silverbacks from degenerating. It couldn't be clearer, except in the all-hoped-for after-life, where we can forge all day and never have to meet a counterfeiter.
     
  19. If all these people really wanted to die, don't you think they could do it?! They can't be that stupid. They wouldn't be able to move. But maybe they get that way when they're all cracked out. So why don't you get them off the smack, too much of a challenge for you? Now who's lazy?
     
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