Vaccinations

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by siri888, Jan 5, 2015.

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  1. morrow

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    Morrow, there may in fact be some alternative treatments that might be worth trying, not in place of your current treatment, but in addition to it, if your doctor had no objection. I could say more if you were interested.[/QUOTE]

    Im always up for another's ideas on things, so go ahead..
     
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  2. Meliai

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    1) The GI tract plays a role in immunity but that is not your entire immune system, not even close. The immune system is in the blood, bone marrow, and lymphoid organs. As well as the physical barriers of your body, which are bypassed in vaccinations but the physical barriers are innate immunity and cellular immunity is known as adaptive immunity, one doesnt need the other to work.

    2) when you inhale a pathogen it also bypasses your GI tract. Are you trying to say our body has no way of building immunity unless the pathogen is digested? You're saying the body has no way of fighting airborne pathogens?

    3) Vaccines cause toxic shock? No. Only in the case of allergies, which are rare. Please cite your source.

    4) we have vaccine boosters for a reason. Not all vaccines provide life long immunity but some do. And for the ones that don't, you can get boosters.

    5) you do not have to get sick with an illness to build immunity. You only have to be exposed to a pathogen. Are you really trying to say vaccines dont work? Source please.
     
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  3. David0301

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    hahahjaaj ja just an eye Blink while im dancing right now hehe cant believe what this tortoise said "nose,mouth is not gi tract," hahaha thats the kind of people im dealing with here, theyr even proud and convinced, roflmao , i will have to stop posting here in this Kindergarten

    im out

    feel the text vibe, boom!
     
  4. Meliai

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    The GI tract is the gastrointestinal tract which includes the mouth but not the nose. It doesn't surprise me to learn you're a mouth breather though ;)

    I notice you arent even trying to back up your assertion that vaccines dont work lol. Bye David.
     
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  5. Asmodean

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    A pity. We're ready to be convinced by a backed up good argument, but he can't make it.
    Of course he can resort to the same tactics as usual, call people turtoises and run off acting like he said something worthwile. Ah well.
     
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  7. Meliai

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    I've been called worse :tearsofjoy:
     
  8. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    I'd rather my kid have autism than diphtheria and polio.
     
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  9. morrow

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    Wakefield started the theory that autism and the MMR vaccine were linked, it caused parents to put theirs and other children at risk.. and still today, people around the world think that what he said was true!
    Not enough people know the true facts, that Wakefield was actually struck off for making false reference about the link, and causing deaths and life changing problems to children by what he did..
    Read this, and help assure parents, please have your children vaccinated..

    MMR vaccine controversy - Wikipedia
     
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  10. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Ok, I looked it up. Vaccines do sometimes contain antibiotics, but these are to prevent the growth of bacteria within the vaccine itself, not to treat bacterial infections.

    I think that doctors actually do understand what is in vaccines, at least the ones at the CDC, and even know why they contain what they do
    Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Additives in Vaccines Fact Sheet

    Well, what I said is that in the case of a live-attenuated vaccine being given to a person with a compromised immune system, it's possible to come down with a mild case of a viral disease from that type of vaccine. I think nowadays this type of vaccine is rarely if ever used. I think most vaccines now use either a dead virus, or a viral fragment.

    So what I said is very different from saying "vaccines give you the very same disease they are supposed to prevent".
     
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  11. newbie-one

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    The problem with this is that many people die each year from the flu, mostly the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

    Even if someone doesn't come down flu symptoms, they can still be a carrier.
     
  12. Dude111

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    Im sorry but he is RIGHT ON!!!!!!

    Vaccines are aweful..... They compromise your immune system and leave you open to things LATER IN LIFE you might not get otherwise!!
     
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  13. David0301

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    beautiful:hearteyes:
     
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  14. GLENGLEN

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    I Expected Better From You......:disappointed:



    Cheers Glen.
     
  15. David0301

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    Dude111 dont mind that G-LEN guy he is only here to provoce people. Contributing nothing constructive at all.
     
  16. David0301

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    you have mentioned an important point and reminded me of something else ---> vaccine manufacturers explicitly say on the label (which nobody reads) that vaccines are only guaranteed active if stored at cooled temperatures. Now go and research in how many cases it is taken care of. (reminds me of one woman i talked to, she recently had to remove her silicone breasts, she told me that the manufacturers only declare them safe "at cooler temperatures" and not at body temperature (within the body). what a strange (reverse) world we are currently living at. Everything is reverse and opposite. The good is being declared bad and vice versa. These days green tea is doomed "dangerous" , colon hydro therapy "harmful", distilling water "dangerous" . On the other side industrial sugar and salt "of no concern" , GMO foods "safe" . etc etc. But I have noticed there is a deeper spiritual meaning behind these duality game being played by the industry. While our conscious-self for example knows exactly that green tea is good for us, our ego-self does not want to believe it because it requires change, taking care of our selves, being self-responsible . Most people dont want that. Most people are kind of handicapped and need another person (doctor) to check on their health and body. Because noooo way they are not capable of curing,healing themselves nuh uh. Only pharma can. mhm
     
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  17. David0301

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    for example: most people here like and praise vaccines for a good reason. It does fit in the big picture of their puzzle. You can not endorse vaccines and at the same time believe in natural healing and in the perfection of the human being. You see what im saying? It all goes hand in hand. The people who inauculate themselves and others also trust a foreign man (doctor) healing powers. They dont take care of themselves. They dont eat organic food. They dont look fit. They dont love themselves etc etc .

    The people I meet who only eat organic, who love themselves, who look fit, who filter/distill their water, who care for others, THESE people are also against vaccines. It matches .

    Boom! Truth hurts. :cry:
     
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  18. GLENGLEN

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    LOL.......Speaking Of "Nothing Constructive"......LOL......:laughing:



    Cheers Glen.
     
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  19. Noserider

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    It's comforting to know HF posters know more about vaccines than microbiologists.

    Jesus fucken Christ...
     
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  20. morrow

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    Why do you feel the need to insult people?
    This type of posting is exactly the reason people are not taking you seriously!
    I hope the mods see this, and decide to ban you, because I for one am totally fed up of your insults!
    Once again I ask you to refrain from doing this, once again I remind you, Glen has been here a long time! And adds lots of things to this forum..
    Look at how many posts he has made.. do you think you will make that many in your time here? I doubt it..
    Thought you were not coming back? You said it, it's the only reason I liked your post! Which I will now unlike! As you lied.
    You also insult melia, you've insulted a nice lady there.. but you wouldn't know that, because you don't care! Shame on you!
     
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