Vaccinations.

Oh yeah, I checked out the link.

That is the information you posted, Rat.

 

So if that comes from his book (for the record, I got it from a website that made no mention of Trudeau), then how does it make the information itself wrong? See, it's another straw man argument from you. Next to each claim is the source, so unless you can refute the source, you have no argument.

 

gotta love that book "the weight loss cure..."

haha
no shit the fatties lost weight on a 500 calorie diet
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Rat has evolved beyond the "source" dialectic. He doesn't have sources.

 

You know nothing with google. I understand a a great many things. I cull topics because it interests me to do so, and I gain hands on experience, I know why propellers aren't straight, beyond the difference in radial speeds, I know why there is rotor whop on the osprey, and why that's a bad thing

I know why the harrier has anhedral wings, and why the 747 has dihedral, and I know why all of southwest's 737's have vertical planes on their wingtips, I don't just know these as little facts, I understand the math behind it, I understand what goes on in a windtunnel, and appreciate the depth behind it, I know you can't just let the aerodynamicists design the plane and put the stealth on after, because it doesn't work that way



from the way you have presented yourself on these boards you do not seek that depth of knowledge in ANYTHING, you simply copypaste the information of questionable sources (seriously, kevin trudeau? are you fucking kidding me?) and pretend to actually know something

I am not the same as you.

and, you are the one with no argument. except for ad hominem, which forces everyone else into the mud with you, either to source, which you pretend is less valid than your plagiarizing mass of conspiracy wackos, or the back and forth that you feel is the only way to debate because the lack of actual data, and the unwillingness to seek out actual data for this forum.

 

It is important to know where your information comes from. It's not implying that the information is made up necessarily.

Just to know if whoever presenting it is doing it in an honest manner or a surreptitious manner.

I already presented the misrepresentations about diphtheria in world war 2, because I've heard that before. Perhaps under more scrutiny the rest wouldn't hold water either.

The only thing we have to go on, is the honesty of the presenter. Who is apparently a natural cure selling con man.

 

So it's Trudeau's information?

No, it's not. He may have featured it in his book, but he is not the one making those claims.

I am sure that is information that has been cited by HUNDREDS of people.

SO whatever argument you have holds NO water whatsoever.

 

I suggest Rats pull was from this site

http://www.breakthematrix.com/content/Vaccinations-a-form-of-Eugenics

Reason being, its the only site google spits out.

 

Already responded to all this. But he is making claims, not simply compiling data.

What I'm saying without reading the book, is that it appears to be misrepresented and cherry picked for the reasons I've mentioned.

 

But, that information does not come from Trudeau. It says next to each note the source it comes from. Are you really that thick-headed? Trudeau merely copied that information into his book. He is not the originator if it.

 

Different sources. It was he who compiled disparate facts and presented it in a deceptive manner to sell natural cures to diphtheria.

IE: Cherry picking. Another one of these 'logical flaws' we're bringing up, eh?

 

Who gives a shit how he compiled them? The facts are still facts, and unless people want to take the time to refute each individual source, then there is no argument here.

 

lol! Trudeau would be a good place to start.

 

Proclaiming that feeding kids entirely organic foods will equate in keeping them free from illness, is simply, laughable.

 

I personally believe that BSR's opinion outweighs someone who has not travelled nearly as much.

 

I claim that vaccines help immunity

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/hsw/6075-disease-defense-immunity-and-vaccination-video.htm

http://beta.technologyreview.com/biomedicine/22243/

http://www.web-books.com/eLibrary/Medicine/Physiology/Immune/Immunity.htm

Refute it.

 

Well...the native americans never got sick before the white man came and took their land.

 

Sure they did. But 'white man' brought new illnesses. Which the Native Americans had not built immunity up for. Vaccinations couldve been useful.

 

No, but they will get sick far much less than children who are fed processed crap. It's common sense. Supplementation helps, too.

 

Sure there is.

How about the fact most of the "facts" are so old they are obsolete.

Using data that is mostly from last century ( one form the 1900's ) to promote the dangers of jabs today is futile.