'US troops' carry out Syria raid

You're asking Xenox for real evidence?

Oh man, that's a good one. :cheers2:


(prepare to get a dozen of antisemitic links from him)

 

Face facts. Iraq has become a hunting club where anybody with an American axe to grind can come and shoot Americans.

Its far better than all those terrorist training camps we're always claiming to blow up. Instead of taking the action to them, we've allowed them to become battle hardened at our expense. And you can bet we've improved their game.

Point #2 is one people seem to overlook. We are infidels on Muslim soil. All the diplomacy in the world is not going to change that. We are "unclean".

Those folks who have to look at the end of our weapons in their face have no doubt we are indeed the Great Satan. We can't win there. Not with all the military muscle we have available. We can't win there.

And its no secret to them we invaded Iraq to benefit Israel.

http://www.ihr.org/news/040716_hollings.shtml


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Oh, let's not forget this one either.

http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml


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True.
It is also true areas that have failed are also grounds where fighting occurs based on more than regional dificulties.

Who?

Rubbish - Muslims are also killing fellow Muslims.
Infidels! This is proclaimed by those apposed to our being there.
What else are they going to say?
Why do they also kill those that they are supposed to be fighting for?
Much more legitimacy would be there if they killed just Americans and the "alliance"..
Americans - UK troops - et all - Afghans - Iraqis - are all killed and deemed "Infidels".
Quite a broad range there don't you think?
Hypocrits.

I did ask if we had overstayed our welcome - but I should have added the caveat: by those that are not killing anybody and everybody.
Feelings are mixed, yes.
Normal none combatants have mixed feelings.
If you had expressed that feeling I'd have taken you more seriously.
Instead you bypass that point entirely it seems.

 

The "who" would be our favorite generic term for those who wish to interfere with the zionist expansion in the Middle East, Al- Qaida.

I'm sure we can work the Taliban in there somewhere. This is an election year and all.

As far as Muslim killing Muslim, what did you expect when you Removed Saddam who kept this factional hatred suppressed? This was going to happen with or without our invasion someday anyway. Like everything else in this war, we underestimated our abilities to keep the peace.

Non combantants rely on us for their security. They'll likely to face the same fate as all those who helped us in Vietnam did. They'll be slaughtered when we leave.

But what are friends for?

Syria is concerned about its own security and expansion of the war into their lands. Killing of civilians by our special forces in unacceptable and is only making matters worse for us in the ME. Just ask Pakistan and Afghanistan how many of their cilvilians we've slaughtered.

We're going to hang people for this someday.


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"yawn"

Erm. Taliban activity has occured prior to any election.

I'm not talking about factional hatred - that has pretty much died out now.
I'm talking about those killing people in mixed communities regardless of religous alliance, merely supporting the US and their partners - including Sunni / Shia communities.

Cop out.

It does not help, no.
You have to also accept many cross border scuffles are multi-tasked not just posited by the US.
Pakistani/Iraqi/Afghani forces were also part of these issues.
The more you talk the more biased you come across.
Well done.

 

Tit for tat in the aftermath.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/536641/2246368

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You knew this was planned right?

But like I said earlier, Syria is not a pushover like Iraq.

They're WELL armed. And with the current US difficulties with Russia, Syria will strengthen their alliance with Moscow.

2009 is going to be an interesting year.

I plan to watch from outside the US.


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Boy, you guys sure have big ideas.

I see Lord Chaos in all this. You guys see some kind of definable order.

interesting.

I would like to posit that in a dangerous world we can not control, we invent systems that duplicate the feeling we get from control. It makes survival easier to live with.

 

What do you mean by "planned"?

 

I did mention the zionist expansion into the Middle East.

They intend to follow a systematic blueprint to redraw the entire area to their specifications. This includes an all Jewish Israel and a large protective buffer around it.

The Muslims are in their way.


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How is this any different than what Putin did with Georgia, except Russian interests had been attacked first?

 

So far the zionists have been expanding by leaving Lebanon, leaving the Sinai, handing over Gaza, and negotiating the handover of the west bank and golan heights.

Why do I dignify this anti semitic robot with a response?

 

Syria's canned "civilians (mostly children) were killed" response, of course.

They took getting their "secret nuke/milk" plant blown to smithereens quite well.

Aren't they all .

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Try Austria, they love your type.

 

It certainly is tough to be Syria these days.

Sunni Syria plays lapdog to Shia Iran. Iran's petrodollars help to support the Bathist regime in Syria. The cost to the Hassad dynasty is a loss of independent action as they have to defer to the kohemennist paymasters.

Syria also has to defer to the wishes on Iran in the playground of Lebanon; where Iranian Shite warlords control private armies, train extremists and are purchasing real estate to build a power base.

Syria is feeling the squezee. The visit of Speaker Nanci Pelosi must have brought some needed comic relief to Damascus.

Still, President Hassad shared Sarkozy's box during the Bastile Day parade in Paris this summer. Hassad may be playing The West for leverage against Terheran, yet the real Western overtures have been made to bring in Syria, all without some treachy visit to Syria by Bush.

A little rough wooing is all a part of the recipie here. Certainly every mafiaso in New York understands the message when those bodies turn up in car trunks at the airport. Hassad and his party understand The Syria raid on a level that our inteligencia can only fail to comprehend.

Please dont tell me about deaths of civilians in Syria. This is a regime that accords no value or dignity to the lives of everyday Syrians. A place where Hassad's father killed every resident of a certain village as retribution way back.

Let Syria close down the training camps. A region that is the birthplace of civilization should show a little more.

 

i think that one thing about middle eastern politics like all politics is that there are not any real black and whites. they are all as bad as each other. who the bad man is comes down to who holds the biggest stick and isn't afraid of using it.

look, take america for example one of the largest armies in the world full of weapons, it actively looks for a fight round every corner, the problem is that when the wounded party gets a fist in the bully cries loudest something any school kid has seen. israel loves killing and torturing the palestinians - i don't know why they do it but they do, its in part all about frustration and anger.

the palestinians are no angels they fight and torture each other. the problem is that anger breeds anger. in such a a climate the religous fanatics of all sides rub their jands with glee, with such a volatile ,market who wouldn't turn to "god" for answers and if they don't turn to "god" they might just be killed for being a non believer or at the very least being killed because they had the audacity to suggest that jehovah or whatever didn't have all the answers.

so you have the palestinians pissed off because they have had their property stolen from them, are being thrown into prison and tortured versus being imprisoned and tortured from their own side. the israelis can be periodically blown to bits by suicide bombers and can occasionally attack lebannon to "vent" which can sometimes go "well" and sometimes not so "well". not to mention every now and then one them goes nuts with a gun.

in israel you have three powerbrokers , the realestate agent, the holy man and the politician , you'll actually find that these three entities entity share one body. the holy man is a politican who dabbles in a bit of realestate and politics. the generals usually want to be politicians and climb into bed with the religious right. above all is the money. as long as the war goes on money can be made, votes can be found and the believers indoctrinated. the suicide bombers and lonegunmen are the pawns.

 

OMG!!!

YOU are hilarious!!! (especially when i'm stoned! )

And i also happen to agree with you, mainly because it sounds like you might have "been there, done that." Not trying to get too personal, but you have a way of saying things that is really down to earth/sensible, and sound exactly like what it must have been to be there.

If so, thank you for coming here, because i've never been there.

 

So the funny thing is an AP reporter showed up at the funeral and the only bodies were of adult men. Oops, Syria wasn't supposed to let them see that.

Meanwhile in Syria:

Not that anybody here would care about that.

 

The fact that xexon is fantasying about a Zionist conspiracy is quite obvious but that doesn't make him an anti-Semite. I think debates about the Middle East would benefit immensely if people will refrain from labeling any anti Israeli comment as “anti semitic” .
I think anyone with the most basic understanding of Israeli politics can testify that currently Israel has absolutely no expansion policy and even the most right winged party in the Knesset doesn't have an expansion agenda