How the hell can you blame Israeli civilians for violence?!?!?!?!?! There was one documented such murder, and it was a couple of years ago by a psychologicly challanged person spraying a masque. There used to be a zionist fundimental anti-palestinian group, but the ISRAELI government arrested AND imprisoned them before they could do anything... unlike the Palestinian Authority who let bloody child murderers roam free.
And there you have it! Palestinians should be grateful they are ALLOWED to live at all is that it? They should be grateful that they are 2nd class citizens in their OWN country. They should just stand by and LET the IDF do whatever it pleases without saying a damn word about it. THEY shouldn't be leaving at all! If you want to know who should really leave it's all those fake Israelis that don't belong there in the first place. You know the ones that moved there from North America and Russia, who's families NEVER lived in that area at all ever.
well, if i handed out a slap, i should fully expect one in return. but i didn't hand any out. this is my gripe.
No, settlers have caused just as much trouble as suicide bombers that's why most of Israel doesn't support having them living out there. There were more murders than that, and it goes back further than a few years ago. The IDF lets child murderers roam around free too. Lots of them. The Palestinian murderers are dead...remember?
It is not thier own country. The immigrants made Israel into a world leader in technology, diamonds, etc... Before 48'... it was a bloody desert! It is practicly imposible to improve a country so much in 50 years... yet, the Israelis did it. This land belongs to these people, ignoring all history, just for the reason that the Israelis actually use and constantly improve it. A land with no resources and very few water... transformed into such a magnificent country. You have never been to Israel, you do not know the greatness of it.
Name one case from the last 10 years that can even compare to palestinian school bus or night club bombings.
i still maintain that there are militant parents over there raising their children to be just as militant as they themselves are. don't expect me to give that one up, it's not crap.
Mari, how can you possiblly deny that? There are pictures of babies dressed as suicide bombers to prove that! Save me the googling time.... and just admit it... KC is right.
All you crazies want US out of your area? stop fighting and killing. Really it would work. But i'm sure you'll never figure that one out, its much to simple for your complex minds to handle. I mean really..you must be complex because most of you nuts are so far gone we have no clue as to what your really thinking. You claim your doing gods work and that is Killing any people you happen to be near including children. What god this is I can only guess as satan. Christ and his farther god are not about murdering children, Their about loving them. There is only one dammed soul I can think of who would happily see millions murdered in his name and thats Satan. So if you actualy beleave your doing the right thing, well you must of really had to reach super far into that demented mind to think that. But I'm no saint thats for sure, I really wish..and I mean this.. that we here in the US where as ruthless as you bastards. Cause if we where, there would be alot less terriorist around alive.. for that matter there would be alot less nations who support terrorist around too. hmm.. Actualy I think there would be alot less people around as well , mostly do to the fact that we've NUKED you bastards to the point that few of you are living, We would turn that nice sand dune you live on into a glass parking lot. BUT..( sighs ) we're not like you, and thats where our real fault lays. we actualy care about people. We want everyone well fed, we want everyone to feel safe walking down their own street to work or play. But you idiots will continue to go nuts killing and distroying anything you can, you wont be happy till your true god Saten sees you and everyone around you laying in a river of blood. I pity all of you. your truely lost souls. You really have no clue to how lost you are. I offer a prayer to christ to guide you to him in your darkest hour so that you may see the light and the error of your ways.
No, I haven't, and by the way things are going my children will never be allowed to either. It's STILL a desert, at least to Palestinians it is, they don't have all the water now do they? Israeli's didn't build it, American money did. That land belongs to those that were BORN there, that worked that land, and did nothing but want to raise their families. Doesn't matter WHO they are. Interestingly enough I was looking up maps this afternoon, and before 1948 there was NO such place as Isreal or Isrealis. However as far back as 1100 on a crusader map, there IS PALESTINIA.
Ohhhhhhh...I was waiting for this one. I wondered how long it would take for you to come up with it. That picture was bogus, but aside from that, have YOU ever worn army fatiques? Anything you know pants, jacket, shirt...they have been all the rage for some time now. My mom dressed my brother as a cowboy for halloween once complete with toy guns, does that mean that he was going to go out and rob a bank??? Give me a break! LOL
and as far as a -1000 B.C. Bible map, there was Knahn (also named "Israel)... that makes no difference. Land ownershipa nd rights change. You cannot expect the US to give all its land back to the natives. it is not a desert in the Israeli territories. American money? No, it was Jewish settler money, and hard work that built the country. Alot was donated by foreign jewish inverstors (most famose donor was Count Rotchild...a wealthy jewish american). The US WAS NOT, I reapeat WAS NOT an ally of Israel in 48' or earlier... they had no reason to allly. They allied because Israel supplies them with wonderful military technology, and with some of the brightests minds in the US. No noe worked the land under turkish or british mandate during the 20th century, it was a swamp filled desert. The jewish settlers were the ones that civilized and urbanized it. NO ONE ELSE!
how the bloody hell can you compare "dressing as a cowboy" to "Dressing as a suice bomber". A cowboy does not take innocent people's lives, he is not a symbol of murder and hate. How the fuck was the picture bogus if it was released on the Hamas website?
http://www.phrmg.org/PHRMG%20Documents/Settlers%20violence/Tables/Victims_By_Settlers_in_English.htm There's a better one but I can't find it right now. It might not even be online anymore. It was a couple of years ago.
Hmmm...I think you should study your US history. You didn't answer my question...ever dressed in army gear???
it seems to me that the basic disagreement here is that no one in their right mind can condone brutality towards bystanders. but when you start actively teaching people to become participants, they are no longer bystanders. the israeli general public, like most people who just wanna live their lives in relative peace, want to allow the palestinians their land. the israelis are there now, and they're not going anywhere. there are those among the palestinians and other arab nations that just plain want them gone, and will kill them all to see to it, and that's just not practical. people are vicious on both sides, but the general and i'd like for you point out in one post of mine wherpublic is not vicious. but do not try to convince me that there are not those among the palestinians who are willing to raise their children to be brutal, while screaming about the israeli brutality. i have never condoned violence, not once. i'm not taking sides here, because both sides are fucking up royally. but my general concept of human beings is that no one is all evil, all wrong, and that includes the israelis.
No, it was American corporate money that built Isreal. I think you have that a bit backwards. The US supplies the technology. So, now comes the arguement that the Arabs are uncivilized. What's next, terrorist text books in schools? Are you going down the list or up?
he wasn't saying the arabs are uncivilised, he was saying that no one really had any use for the land, so the jewish settlers set to work to using it and cultivating it.
KC MOST Palestinians want the same things for their children and their families that anybody else on this earth wants. What bothers me is that people seem to think that they are so different from everyone else. That is NOT true. You've said some of those things on this very thread. You think that some Isreali parents don't teach their children to hate Palestinians? My goodness take a look at this thread, see how many times the very existance of Palestinians has been denied. The first step in getting rid of something you don't like is to deny it exists, and to keep doing it until everyone believes you. Notice how well that tactic has worked. You're right both sides are wrong and I've said before it's the fanatics on both sides that people are dying for