US out of the UN

No, this is what the people want. The majority still don't realize they're ushering in a World Government. The US government even have "Psychiatrists" throughout the US to "Quell dissent," in the "event of an emergency."

They've been taking our Rights for too long and when people wake up and you can't protest or speak your mind, they WILL regret allowing the government to get so big. As I said, most people just live their day-by-day, pick the "lesser of the two evils" etc. But there are well over 1 million people in this country who feel as I do, and because they are the "minority" the Dems and Cons keep pushing their fascist agenda, and people like us "must comply"


But we will not comply with unconstitutional laws; They made it a crime to dance at the Jefferson memorial. The government thinks the can control us to the degree of regulating the movement of our bodies! Thomas Jefferson would be appalled!

No longer do we live in a "free" country; we live in a country which is a police state that thinks it can control us! But it wont be able to quell this Revolution that is brewing.

 

How do you know?

Basically, people don't think like me, but when they do?
1 million out of 350 mill' -crikey, big numbers.
How many believe in Jesus?

More: 'Well, they actually didn't say that, but....'?

*snooze*

 

Our country was instituted against such overbearing governance. The middle class is stretched, most families need both parties to work to make a decent living. The people are struggling right now. They may not understand how it ties in with politics; For every dollar issued, 90 cents goes to our federal government! The 18 trillion dollar debt will never be paid off (We're talking Manhatten stuffed with 100$ bills, would hardly pay this back.) I believe they know the dollar is crashing, and they're gonna use this to scare people into accepting more government.

However, I believe people are at a tipping point, and might start understanding that more of the same shit isn't what we need.

I don't see how that is relevant? Are you trying to say that since we're just 1 million strong it's not enough? We grow as the government loses credibility- at this rate most of America will understand this message by 2014.

No, they did say that. People in this country get arrested for speaking (Snowden, manning, the chalk artist,) and many people go to jail for other insane things when America already has the most overcrowed prisons in the world! We need leadership who understands true humans rights and adhere strictly to the Constitution!

 

Is it possible not to continually quote Ron Pauls website. Jeez.
Have some original thought for once...

Ron Pauls message?

Post it...

 

The message of freedom and individual responsibility? It goes way back from Dr. Paul and starts in 1775, when the Brittish government tried to tke our weapons and we revolted. It is the same thing; we're saying Government is too big, we need less government, less violence, less taxes, more freedom, REAL money and, as I said politicians who adhere to the Constitution. These are original thoughts, which we've yet to actually try.

I support the ideals of my countries founding fathers.

 

I generally turn off when people start talking about themselves and their beliefs in the third person...

 

You asked so I answered. You think i'm some kid obsessed with Dr Paul; Yeah, I love his message, but no one is worth unconditional praise because that's how the Nazis and Obama supporters were invented.

 

So, what has he got wrong? You answered as 'we' rather than 'I' ... almost drone like. That's really bad. Really bad.

 

No it isn't. It's bad when the majority mindlessly follows a bad government, and doesn't question it. I think you're poking holes in Libertarianism cause you don't want to admit that Government force is wrong. Even though, they mostly arrest peaceful people for pocession of weapons or drugs, although the constitution give people a right to carry weapons, and allows people who aren't suspects, not to be subject to s
earch.

American's don't want to live in the police state America has become! Our Constitution protects us from such Human Rights violations; but now, Obama is trying to nullify every Amendment he can including

1st(HR347)
4th(Ndaa,Ndrp, CISPA and NSA)
5th(NDAA)
6th and 7th


The 8th has been gone since Bush legalized torcher.

 

Following one doctrine isn't great either. I'm not poking holes in a doctrine. I'm poking holes in a person who refers themselves as 'we' rather than 'I'. It's quite easy when you don't really deviate, and don't have much to back yourself up.

Are you talking about not being able to protest outside the Whitehouse again? *snooze*

 

Not just the white house, anywhere secret service is present. and if you don't care about America, and our Constitution, there's no need for you to mock people who do. Because plenty of people in the US, do take the Constitution seriously, and want it upheld.

 

I want to point out that this point was not rebutted yet, it was just brushed aside and dismissed because this FACT did not support the notion that the US Congress is supporting global governance.

 

It would help if it were true.

I know your prime go to argument is: 'Well, not actually, but maybe'.

 

If we can send American troops to war without

A. A declaration of war

B. a direct threat to our nation


Then it overrides the Constitution, and thusly should be nullified; That is to say, our government uses the U.N to declare unconstitutional wars. That should be enough to question it's legitimacy. And although they talk about peace, we know the UN is just like the power hungry politicians of the US, violence and all. There is no true peace ever to be, with the imposition of force. If you have to point guns at people to "maintain order," mankind will never truly be either free nor independent.

 

It is true; I have posted multiple sources. You just don't want to believe it. Idk why? I feel like you're smarter than you're putting off. You should understand that government force breeds more force and has not been useful in the drug war or the war on terror. With the government, we're paying a shitload of money, for what we could do without them.

With extra "services" most don't want any part of!

 

Seriously, bro... read/watch what they do...

 

You have posted zero with regards to not being able to protest outside the White House. Zero about the UN (other than some rancid website that has no credibility) What have you provided in evidence?

'we' (or we're) again *snooze*

 

You still didn't refute that point that I made, you went out on a tangent.

Might I also disclose, that I also USED to believe in all the stuff that you're spouting about being made dumb by fluoride in the water, UN usurping the Constitution, and all of that. That is until I came across some of those same facts that I've shared here in these forums that helped snap me out of that myth.

Obviously, you're set in your ways, but at least address the facts I present point by point. If you can't, your forced to admit that that's something that you don't have an explanation for.


I've heard that the Fluoride in the water, destroys teeth and causes cavities, but that's been debunked by my own personal experience, and that of older generations before me who had TONS of cavities, and were not exposed to the Fluoride in the water. In fact my dentist says my teeth are pretty healthy.

You say you don't like AJ that much, but you guys seem to be saying the same message...

 

When Kennedy used force during the era of Brown VS Board of Education, that turned out well in the long term. National Guard had to be called in remember?

And this is a new topic about the drug war you just brought in, the drug war doesn't end because drugs are too lucrative, and so people who are drug smugglers and sellers take the risks to do it anyway.

(Note: this is why I'm for the legalization and regulation of weed)