US out of the UN

Chaos more often results in loss of control, where gradual change allows those bringing about the changes 'they' desire to retain and expand control. Controlled inflation works quite effectively as has been seen over the last century.

When talk and support of "Global government and a New World Order" abounds, why does it need to be called a conspiracy? And would such a change require the immediate destruction of the U.S. dollar?

 

Well, after reading your Rights, I personally feel as though you guys are no better off than America. You would/could lose alot of rights if you were to change to UN rights- all of them infact, as the UN "Human Rights" puts government higher than the Law. Article 29 says if the Law says you can't excersize freedom (for the alleged 'general welfare of society; ) than you can't. That's giving total power to government, as if saying the government gives us our Rights.

Our founders knew Rights don't come from government, but from God/being human.

There's no way for me to know how your government already upholds your Rights, so I can't say how the UN effects England directly, just America. In the Constitution states we're only supposed to go to war, with a declaration, and because someone is a direct threat to us. That changed after WWII and the start of the UN. Now, the Government sends us to war under false pretenses, and that's why people don't believe the official 9/11 story. (I don't believe the 7/7 story either, cause it's strange CCTV is the ONLY one allowed to film train stations, and all they could show is one still frame image, which could easily have been photo-shopped.)


But basically, all you guys are defending the pre emble, without even thinking of the war, destruction and force that comes with it. And it's all to keep some companies in power, and get cheap products. They are essentially using military force, to get countries to comply with their NWO.

 

How does the dollar being destroyed by creeping inflation make the situation any less chaotic?

I'll tell you guys something, the MOST likely negative economic scenario of what will happen next in global financial news that will affect the USA economy, is that China's residential housing bubble bursts. If this happens the domino effect on the USA and UK economies means that China's economic surplus dries up within days, and they can't buy US treasury bills anymore, freezing up credit and causing an economic meltdown worldwide.

(Any UK government or private UK sector investments in China or the USA will probably suffer and anybody RothIRA and 401K will lose most of it's value)

^that is the most likely scenario at present time, not the gradual loss of the dollar's power through the NWO.

This whole talk about ushering in the Amero (to those who don't know this is an aspect of the NWO conspiracy) a currency akin to the Euro, but for Canada, USA, and Mexico doesn't make sense. Why would you want to make a currency linking all 3 of those nations? Having local currencies helps to lessen the domino effect if one currency experiences trouble in it's value.

 

Monk Jr. You don't think think the dollar with burst after the 1 trillion per yer in "Quantitative Easing" (printed money)?

A dollar isn't shit; 1/40th of what a true American Silver Dollar is worth. (1oz silver) So although you may think our fiat money is stable, it's based off of bad debt and assets purchased by the Federal Reserve, and it's all based on debt. Even if we gave the private federal reserve bank every single dollar back, we would still owe them money.

And also, you shouldn't generalize people. Just because one person believes something, doesn't mean everyone in that group does. I don't believe in the Amero. However, I do believe the IMF is creating a world currency for America to jump on board once the dollar finally collapses, and people are afraid and "need leadership," so they'll follow like cattle to slaughter.

 

Btw- speaking of devaluing currencies; London devalued Sterling 14% in one day, and it caused total chaos. They couldn't even pay the trash-men.

 

Who claimed it didn't? By keeping it gradual, most people ignore it, or simply don't recognize it happening.

 

@ Stp, okay sorry for assuming that you believed in the Amero. The reason I did was because I have not met someone who believes in the NWO who doesn't also believe in the Amero being the precursor to the one world currency, which you do believe is happening. You are the first.

@Individual, well I guess we're in limbo now, because we've hit a point in our conversation where we're in agreement about the mess we are in.

The only thing we disagree on is the existence of the NWO as you believe it exists. I remain unconvinced, but I do agree there is massive corruption that needs to be weeded out.

 

We might agree on many things if we stuck to the issues.

This threads topic is "US out of the UN" and there's another thread titled "Would a global government and a New World Order be a bad thing?", and where have I stated that I believe a NWO exists? I do however, believe that there are persons who would promote the existence of a 'Global government and a New World Order' as exemplified by Balbus, a forum moderator in the aforementioned thread which I believe he began.

See, we agree on something else. 'massive corruption', which I frequently see government providing figures and/or instances related to large amounts of money being wasted through corruption, yet seldom if ever hear of what is being done to recover or put an end to it.

I saw a story recently where 23,994 tax refunds totalling $46,378,040 for an average of about $1933 each, were sent to a single Atlanta, Georgia address.
An audit found this not to be a unique instance, and has been going on for some time in other States, and related to returns filed with ITINs rather than Social Security numbers. I believe I brought this up in another thread, before the news story appeared, but it was discounted as just a minor and single case. I guess today waste has to be in the 100's of billions or more before it is considered to be a problem worth giving attention.

Note: If StpLSD25 or someone else in the Atlanta area has knowledge of the address the returns were sent to, I's be interested in knowing it as that is where the instance I spoke of previously was occurring, and that was going on back in the early 90's before I left the States.