UPDATE: JULIAN ASSANGE Freed!

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  1. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I think what Stinkfoot means is that when someone is potentially facing any sort of legal situation, what they say can and will be used against them. This is likely why Assange is reluctant to discuss the accusations, besides the fact that he's probably also greatly insulted by them if they aren't in fact true.
     
  2. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Thank you :)
     
  3. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Fair enough. But with out him saying as such he does not make his legal position that obvious.
     
  4. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    He doesn't need to- we're not the ones to decide his fate. :)
     
  5. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    True. But I keep seeing him on TV because he wants to.
     
  6. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Well- he does so at his own risk.

    Personally I see the "attack the messenger" tactic as adding credibility to the leaks and makes me want to see more. Part of the aim might be to intimidate- and by maintaining visibility he may be asserting his refusal to fold to such tactics.

    ^^^All speculation^^
     
  7. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    True.


    Pardon?
     
  8. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    I was referring to the legal action against Assange :)
     
  9. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Yes.


    I see. Not what I do.

    I wasn't being serious.
     
  10. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I know. It still did not make sense. It seemed to be an opinion. An opinion I did not understand. Never mind.
     
  11. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    Thanks, Odon. So much for a completely secure environment. Marine PFC Manning is looking at up to fifty years in naval prison for releasing classified material.

    For the collateral murder video that Manning released showing the killing of Reuters journalists and others by Marine helicopter in 2007, see http://www.collateralmurder.com/. Of course, the Marines spokesman claimed the helicopter had followed normal rules of engagement. Hell, anyone can mistake a tripod for an AK-47 or a videocamera for a rocket launcher. Boys will be boys...

    (I haven't read all 692 posts here and I may be repeating obvious information.)
     
  12. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    You can't be serious...you do know one only has to do that inside a courtroom right.


    What?

    Done!
     
  13. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    You were not there.
     
  14. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    100%
     
  15. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    I think the intent was a personal observation that the witch hunt mentality that precipitated his arrest may have the effect of regular folks demanding more information about what governments are doing.... particularly the United States from my perspective.

    All the rhetoric about whether or not he is guilty of sexual assault is completely beside the point. Truth spoken by the lowest scoundrel isn't any less truthful- so is the legal assault on the character of Assange (and Manning) mean that it is immoral to dig for the truth behind what governments are doing in the name of their citizens?

    It is a distraction and I see that we seem very predictably and duly distracted.

    Carry on...
     
  16. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Your humour is dryer than my glass of red wine and equally as inebriating.

    If he were to make his legal stance clear, it could potentially come back to bite him on the ass. On top of that, if he is innocent, even admitting to sexual affairs with the women could be turned around and used against him.

    If someone called you, personally Odon, a rapist, what would be your first reaction? To come up with a legal defense, or to be insulted? People often say things they might later regret when they're insulted. I'm sure Assange's silence is mostly due to the biting of his own tongue.
     
  17. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    What better way to distract the herd than by calling the whistleblower a rapist.

    "This guy says you've been lying to us."

    "You do know he's a rapist right?"

    "Really?"

    "Yep, here's two women to prove it."

    "That bastard, I hope you deal with him good!"


    Houdini would be proud......
     
  18. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I think that has been the problem.
    It's a very Americentric
     
  19. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Thanks.
    No shit.
     
  20. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Well that may prove to be appropriate as much of the current political and economic instability in the world is most likely to some degree traceable to the US.
     

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