"unpopular" drugs with psychedelic value?

so, it seems these days, trippers only accredit the common psychedelics with having mind expanding value. Dugs like LSD, Mushrooms, DMT and Salvia.

And dont get me wrong, these are great!

But, Id say Iv had a good amount of mind expanding experiences, and many, not with the above substances. Many of these "unpopular" substances, are the butt of jokes in the drug community for being things nobody wants to take.

So, what are the "unpopular" drugs you find psychedelic?

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I personally find synthetic canabinoids under certain circumstances can have mind-expanding potential

also, nutmeg is one of my favourite drugs

Morning Glory seeds have gotten me some good trips

DXM also is an amazing dissociative (just hard to choke down a bottle of that stuff :ack2

 

HBWR seeds: I have enjoyed HBWR seeds both times I've explored them. I didn't get much nausea from them either time, which seems to be a frequent complaint and they produce some quality psychedelia.

25i-nbome is about the only other drug I can think of as "unpopular" however Nbome use is fairly rampant.


There are some drugs which I feel are underrated or undervalued but not really "unpopular" by the criteria you have provided.

 

NBOMe, Iv had some interesting experiences on as well! And, what drugs do you think are under appreciated? Im interested to hear opinions even if they dont strictly meet the criteria!

 

I like hbr and I also find that zopiclone can have psychedelic value in that it puts you into a sort of consciousness stream. You just flow from one thing into another in an amnesiac haze. It's definitely interesting, if not psychedelic.

I kinda like the synthetic cannabinoids, but they're way way too risky. They're ridiculously dangerous drugs for how high you get.

 

well.. if its plant based your lookin for then there are a lot!

I think the active chem in nutmeg is very interesting. tho Im not a fan of eating the plant itself.. extraction is very easy. (as far as I know... you can make a simple tea, filter it, and the white oily stuff on the top of the liquid is your psychoactive compound. Its only soluble in warm water and when you cool it it will crystalize on the sides.)

another one is coleus blumei.. which is a houseplant with psychoactive ingredients effects are similar to salvia divinorium.

another interesting way to induce psychedelic states is by simply catching a cold. I find the states when Im sick to be very psychedelic sometimes.

 

Speaking of hbwr... I ate about 750 morning glory seeds i crushed into an apple sauce a few months ago... To this very moment i cant think about it without my stomach churning... I was trying to hold it in as long as possible to feel the effects after purging.. about an hour 10 mins in... was over.. ran to bathroom.

I litterally thought i was going to die because not only was i tripping but i puked so hard so many times for so long that i couldnt breathe in... just a constant flexed throat muscles pushing to clear my stomach. I seriously held my breath for like 3 minutes because i couldnt breathe in past the urge to purge.

Was scary because i was thinking my family, friends are gonna have no clue as to how the hell i died other than i have puke everywhere.

Obviously i lived and am never touching LSA again. I realize i was lazy and didnt do a proper extraction method, but this left me a Very post traumatic stress issue with LSa lol

 

Dude... you took waaaay too much. 750 for a first trip on morning glory? WOW... should've started at 200 or something to see how you react to the stuff first, assuming it was your first time

 

DXM...not really a psychedelic but a dissociative

 

You did it wrong.
You need to do a cold water extraction, throw out the mush and drink the resulting potion.
Much, much easier on the belly.



I've had some fantastic experiences with San Pedro. While relatively common and all, it isn't very popular considering it takes an act of steely will and determination to get it down and keep it down. :ack2:

 

NAhhh son I GO HARD lol.... but yeah man was my first (and last) experience with morning glory seeds =]

I realllly underestimated the negative effects. I usually have a strong stomach for stuff though so i wasnt too worried.

The positive effects were still mildly weak though i mean yeah i tripped but nothing too heavy... Before i die I wanna take Acid, 2 hours in take shrooms, 2 hours later smoke weed then smoke dmt every half hour or so for a few hours.

I wanna know what "too much" psychedelics is really like.

Throw some mescaline in their too maybe ive yet to try it though

 

Yeah i did a lazy cold water extraction with about 250 seeds, waited about an hour didn't feel much... said fuck it and just downed the rest of the seeds i had after grinding them up... It took a steel will and determination to keep it down for the next 1 hour 10 minutes... When i did finally purge i swear i almost died lol I was trying so hard to breathe but my gag reflex wouldn't let me... After that I couldn't tell if i was really having a pleasant experience, or just so thankful that the purge was over lol

Highly doubt i will but if i ever tried morning glory seeds again i would be doing a real extraction method. If im spending money on chemicals, lab supplies though Its usually for extracting something a lot better than lsa.

 

I have as well and I agree it is difficult to get down. I'm surprised mescaline in general isn't more popular, I understand it's not as profitable as many other street drugs due to it's potency and what not but with all the effort into producing all these obscure RC's, it seems like someone would be willing to make some mescaline.

I recommend you go the HBWR route if you explore lsa in the future. With quality HBWR, you only need a few seeds for a mild experience and about a dozen for a strong trip as opposed to several hundreds with Morning Glories.

 

The only thing I didn't enjoy about HBWR was the degree of vasoconstriction, I could actually feel My muscles tense up every now and then but other then that, most the other side effects were fairly similar to Acid. I've heard some complain about nausea from HBWR, I drank ginger beer and scraped the fuzz off the outside of the shells to counteract this and I didn't experience any significant nausea.

It's my least favorite in terms of the naturals compared to similar synthetic counterparts (Mushrooms vs. 4-aco-DMT... Mescaline cacti vs 2cx) but its decent if you can't source LSD or lysergamides.

 

DXM gets very negative reactions from people for some reason. I used to enjoy it a lot. And when sharing drug experiences with folks who used and abused lsd, shrooms, k, mdma, etc. They used words like "skid" and "shit" when commenting on DXM. Never understood that. Because it's not as glamorous? What's the deal.

 

I dabbled with DXM a bit when i was younger. Every person expierences unique effects with each drug, but for me DXM just isnt.... enlightening maybe is the word im looking for... After using dxm i dont feel as if it has had a lasting positive effect on me such as how i feel with acid, shrooms, dmt.
I also dont feel this with mdma but ive only done mdma when partying/drinking heavy so i cant judge until i use mdma by itself, and never tried k.

 

Ibogaine?

doesn't seem too "popular", fascinating though.

 

I definitely agree with the zopiclone statement, when I take it I feel like I'm connected to my subconscious and it makes me more aware and self-aware, like psychedelics do. I've personally never experienced strong hallucinations on them but I have had blurry vision and minor hallucinations while taking it. I'm not 100% sure how the medication actually works but to me it feels like it puts my conscious mind to sleep (which is how it puts people into a sleeping state), but keeps your subconscious awake- this is what causes bizarre, "drunk" like thoughts and behaviours while on the drug if you decide not to sleep, and stay awake instead. You feel like the world around you is a dream, like reverse lucid dreaming. I was prescribed 3.75mg which I take every couple nights when I know I have enough time to get 8 hours of sleep, then I'll take the pill and stay awake for about 2-3 hours enjoying the effects before finally going to sleep (for 6-8 hours usually). My only advice is to spread out taking it; my tolerance to it builds quickly, if I take it a few days in a row then by the 4th night I feel the urge to take more because the effects don't feel strong anymore. It's also great for insomnia - if you take the drug when you are ready for bed, you can take it and lay down and be asleep within 20 minutes, with no weird side effects, and wake up feeling energized the next morning.

 

Unpopular? DXM is one of my favorite drugs that I've ever done, and I've used about 90 different chemicals. Never understood the hate. I've also had good effects off of both Morning Glory and HBWR seeds. Its been a good few years since I've tried them., I actually have a mortar and pestle next to me with some seeds in it as we speak.

Gabapentin, a pharmaceutical drug, has some psychedelic like effects although very mild. I also found some similarities between venlafaxine (Effexor) and a low dose of a psychedelic. I found Propylhexedrine mind expanding my first couple times with it, although not quite psychedelic. More of a euphoric empathogen, but I find empathogens very mind expanding in a strange way. Wouldn't recommend trying propylhexedrine due to the addictive potential