Unfair pay gap

Discussion in 'Women's Issues' started by Maggie Sugar, May 13, 2004.

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  1. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

    Pay gaps in the genders are unfair

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    That had to be said.......
     
  2. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

    Hehehe :D
    Very petty but what the hell.


    TTFN

    Sage
     
  3. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

    I wasn't being petty, Sage. Just a little silly.

    You Know Who With his frowny, somehow thinking he is being forceful face on "I NEVER WANT TO SEE THE MYTH OF PAY GAP ON THIS BOARD AGAIN!"

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    I don't like being dictated to. LOL!
     
  4. Sage-Phoenix

    Sage-Phoenix Imagine

    Yeah that's what I meant :)

    I'm not up for being dictated to eithier, get enough of that from my parents.

    TTFN

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  5. FreakyJoeMan

    FreakyJoeMan 100% Batshit Insane

    I posted this on another thread, but even black MEN are being paid less then white men for the same job.
     
  6. dharmagrrl

    dharmagrrl Member

    Yes but ALL women are being paid less than ALL men. Just because another group of people are also being cheated doesn't make the inititial arguement any less valid. As a black woman, I can expect to be paid less than anyone but I'm not going to say that white women shouldn't complain. I dont know if that's what you meant by your comment but that how it came across.
     
  7. superNova

    superNova Member

    i don't think that's what he meant. i think he just meant that white men are generally paid more than anyone else.

    i could be wrong though :)
     
  8. IronGoth

    IronGoth Member

    RE: Yes but ALL women are being paid less than ALL men.

    This is an abject lie.

    The "pay gap" guy is an asshole, but he happens to be right.

    You're way more likely to be an executive at a top company now if you're female.
     
  9. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

    The original thread was started as a joke a year ago (before I was a Mod) as a reply to a stalker/troller/misogynist poster (now permanently banned) who said in a thread "I never want to read the words "Gender Pay Gap" again, I mean it." So I said it again and again. I was being silly. :)
     
  10. IronGoth

    IronGoth Member

    I see. But you must understand, though he was a troll, he was in fact right.

    It's not like they pay a man 125% more the same job, which is what is implied.

    The reality is quite different, and does show a considerable disparity, but not the one implied. What it really means is the men tend to take the more stressful, more dangerous, higher paid but higher costing jobs - e.g. more school, subjects like math, drudgery, corporate labor, whereas the women TEND to careers which "fulfill them" or they drop out to have kids.

    I could just as easily make as much as women if I'd taken English Lit in university and decided I was truly happy working in a bookstore. But that doesn't pay the rent in most cities.
     
  11. it did not have to be said
     
  12. IronGoth

    IronGoth Member

    I'm sorry, I forgot I was in the presence of 16 year olds. I forgot they know everything.
     
  13. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

    Really? Do you know the guy?

    Someone like the aformentioned dude, I doubt you would want to say "He was right." He was banned for various nefarious, nasty, stalking, hatemongering shite.
     
  14. IronGoth

    IronGoth Member

    Listen, even a broken clock is right twice a day - and 2+2 is still 4 even though Hitler asserted it.

    It is CORRECT that there is no "pay gap". The hatemongering I don't agree with. Three or four posts up someone said all women were paid less than all men. That's an outright lie right there, but it's understandable because this keeps being said over and over even though it's wrong.
     
  15. yes im the smartest person to walk this world, I know everything made to man. No but seriouslly this comment didnt need to be said.
     
  16. IronGoth

    IronGoth Member

    I thank you Jake for that value judgment, that commentary on what I should or shouldn't say, etc.

    I really need the appropriateness of what I'm saying to be decided by someone who can't even yet vote.
     
  17. ya if you cant vote you mean nothing
     
  18. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

    Actually Irongoth, that claim IS correct, but stated in an incomplete manner.

    Women routinely earn 70-80% of what their male counterparts would be (and are) paid at comparable levels of employment. Of course without that caveat you have your strawman argument that the female VP will earn more than the male accounting clerk or janitor. That, however, is a spurious comparison.
     
  19. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

    double post
     
  20. IronGoth

    IronGoth Member

    RE:
    Women routinely earn 70-80% of what their male counterparts would be (and are) paid at comparable levels of employment.

    No LickHERish, that is CATEGORICALLY untrue, well for the USA anyway, don't know about enlightened Europe.

    It keeps getting repeated even though it is completely untrue.

    Listen - if you could just hire people for less money, you'd do so.
     
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