Unconscious chickens

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Yup, PR has valid points.....BUT....logistics are a bitch when the majority of the population(s) do not have such ready access to such markets.

 

Buy less meat a week so you can eat quality meat 3 times a week. Could it be that simple? Yes! Another option might be to tame a fox

 

While humane treatment of all animals who are destined to end up on our tables would be ideal I also think we fool ourselves in that dead is dead.

As far as raised in more humane conditions go and the costs involved that also tends to be a little misleading. You can buy the very best and it could have still grazed on grass that is grown on toxic soil. There are not regulations that govern that. The only govern that they were raised on grass.

At the end of the day the chicken that was free range does not feel any better being slaughtered and eaten than the one raised poorly.

I wish there were instead laws in place for all those who raise animals for food as without it even those who claim otherwise are in business and costs will govern what they do.

 

WOW! That sounds like the ramblings of a mad or demented scientist.

I mean I eat chicken at least 3 times a week and will continue to but damn



Hotwater

 

That's not true. When it comes to something that is certified organic, the soil the animals graze on needs to meet certain standards. Being a skeptic, I am skeptical when it comes to organic standards as outlined by the USDA, but I am pretty sure that something that is certified organic still has less contamination than something that isn't, and is worth the extra money. Because of the water table and ground contamination, it's hard for something to be completely organic, but organic farms do have higher standards than farms which are not certified organic. Again, this is why it is better to buy directly from a local farm if possible than from the grocery store, even if the product is labeled organic. I have actually toured some of the farms I get my meat from, so I know what their practices are like. Here is one of those farms: https://www.************/pages/Heiden-Valley-Farms/315847194393

 

I will agree with you that technically what is organic should be, if tested less contaminated, it does not mean it is not contaminated at all.

The requirement is three years without any synthetic chemicals being used to be able to grow organic crops or to feed livestock. That is so that you can legally label it as organic.

The notion that no fertilizers or pesticides are used is erroneous as they are but they must be in accordance with National list of allowed and prohibited substances. You can use any from the allowed list in any combination and still be organic.

In 2005/6 Congress passed a bill allowing 38 synthetic substances that are allowed to be used by organic farmers. They do not have to list these on products as they are considered safe.

Soil and water testing do have to meet a standard that is the same as if you were buying agricultural land that you needed financing on, the exact same testing is done for contaminants if you want money. It only shows that levels are acceptable for health. The same land if used by a non organic farmer would be at that level.

Edit: If you wish to be certified as organic you must have records that show for the three years you have not used any of the banned synthetics. They can audit those for accuracy.