Ukraine & Russia

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  1. happydude_60

    happydude_60 Senior Member

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    Because we're allied with Israel. They help us in the middle east. An analogy would be that they're like a pit bull on a leash over there. If we get involved in a serious situation over there they would be a strong ally. Before anyone jumps on me, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just how it is.
     
  2. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    It's called altruism. Israel is/was an altruistic concern. Crimea, a lot like S. Hussein's Kuwait, is a selfish design of a concern and decided at the last minute. Good question.:smoking:
     
  3. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Dear Anaximenes,

    An altruism is an unselfish regard to the welfare of others. The USA (by the hand of Elanore Roosevelt) formed the United nations in 1947. The first act by the UN was to form Israel as a nation, with total disregard to the local Palestinian population. The Palestinians had no say so in the matter. So my dear, you totally misrepresent things by describing the incident as an altruism. There was nothing unselfish in America's actions in the Palestinian matter; just as, there was no unselfish feelings in American hearts in the matter of the Korean war, the Viet Nam war, the El Salvador war, The Grenada war, the Panama war (un-installing Noriega), the Columbia war, the Nicaragua war (attacking Ortega), the Angola war, The Chile war (installing Pinochet), the Libya war (removing Gaddafi), and the Iraq war to remove Saddam Hussain over the issue of Kuwait. Kuwait was a part of Iraq from 4000 BC until 1963 when England and America attacked Iraq to take Kuwait. When the UN was formed in 1947 Kuwait was a part of Iraq. The UN did not recognize Kuwait as an independent country until 1963. The USA really sucks as a world policeman, and the USA routinely acts in total disregard to the welfare of others. Since 1991, the USA has allowed the Kurds to exterminate thousands of Turkmen in northern Iraq so a Kurdish state can be created. That's definitely no altruism.
     
  4. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    I just say that altruism is the reality through history of the common ideals of various cultures and experiences if you like.
     
  5. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    When has humanity done anything with good will towards other? Not when Alexander the great invaded half or Asia and Egypt. Not when the Romans had expanded their empire. Not when Gengis Khan moved westward. Not when the Arabs invaded Iberia (Spain). Not when the Templars carried out crusades. Not when the British claimed the sun never sets on their empire. And certainly not when America claimed manifest destiny over the lands of indigenous peoples of this continent. Altruism may have happened on a personal level, never on a national level.
     
  6. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    An exception would be the formation of the United Nations, as a reaction to the horrors of WW2.
     
  7. phyrefly

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    The Ukraine, against its national will, will never be separated from Russia. As the seat of the birth of the Russian national (Kiev being the original capital of the "Rus," the Viking kingship that merged with its Slavic subjects to form the Russian nation) the Ukraine will not be allowed to become independent. And, as the "bread basket of Russia," containing the richest and best farmlands of the nation, the Ukraine cannot be set free. Thus, though the Ukrainian Russians had a separate history and religious affiliation (Eastern rite Catholics) in alliance with Poland, the Russians have never recognized this political separation. It is probable, therefore, that the Ukraine will remain as part of Russia, though the Ukrainians are bitter and would have it otherwise.'
    (Glassman RM, China in Transition: Communism, Capitalism, and Democracy)

    The Kremlin is aware of just when the Baptists were meeting in the woods outside of Kiev. Since it was supposedly a Baptist minister who invented the gin-rickshaw at Yokohama, work-tool of the opium addict, the cutting edge of modernity is at Sochi, June 2014 and international drug trade.

    "Sometimes they have to sacrifice one of their own."
    (Deleuze, Philosophy of Crime Novels)
     
  8. OddApple

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    Good post
     
  9. phyrefly

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    There is a certain long message at Yahoo Groups: ctrl, that is of interest concerning the Ukraine crisis, specific number of this message has not yet been retrieved. The reader is directed to message #162516, titled " 'colluded' with the clergy." This message will go into the Bedford Heroin Rally file as well as the Anna Mae Pictou-Aquash/Julia Pretty Hips file for the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, because of the Magdalene laundry connection to Julia Pretty Hip's death due to carbon tetrachloride poisoning: a Laundromat was set up on the reservation, and we can link this to specific individuals once we retrieve the pertinent messages.

    In addition, we must add these things to the Benghazi swimming pool file which now links to the second swimming pool in Cairo" Mena House. Note that, at one time, there was indeed a Cairo bar whose waiters wore Che Guevara berets. Mena House swimming pool, also links to Guevara, because of the Suez Canal opening correlated to Mena House swimming pool opening. Guevara had served as a male nurse on petroleum and shipping vessels, and the timeline points to an Argentine physician who introduced Guevara to leprosy, subsequently Che working in a Peruvian leprosarium.

    The miscegentation that occurred in Bedford Township, Michigan links to an employee of the Clinton law office. We are referring to the family that used to live in the White House. In conjunction with this miscegenation was the collusion of the Christian mafia, in particular, the Christian Missionary Alliance, who smuggled in the Chinese architect to do the miscegenation. This operation also coincided with the previous introduction of methamphetamines and heroin into the township to begin the degradation process.

    Therefore, along with the suggested viewing of Sundance Film Festival's "We Come As Friends" is added "All God's Children," a documentary that exposes the pathologies of precisely the Christian and Missionary Alliance. The reader should really set up and take notice, though, when we link the Viet Cong to Che Guevara and the kidnapping by the Viet Cong of C&MA workers at a leprosarium:

    See Wikipedia for Archie E. MItchell / 30 May 1962

    Note that Che gave his May Day speech exactly one decade and one month to the day of this kidnapping. The Viet Cong were clued up about Guevara's speech, which actually occurred on 30 Ap 1952.

    Furthermore, the Alliance Bible Seminary in Hong Kong is located at 22 Peak Road, and the third swimming pool in the Benghazi file is indeed located in Aberdeen on Hong Kong Island: Pao Yue-Kong. Interestingly, Pao Yue-Kong was a shipping magnate, thus linking Che Guevara's work as a nurse on the shipping vessels out of Argentina. Whereas Hong Kong Governor Murray MacLehose placed a foundation stone in the Pao Yue-Kong swimming pool, it was a couch that was thrown into the swimming pool during the Benghazi attack. Peter Godber is linked to MacLehose, and is the counterpart to Ukraine's Yanukovych for accumulated wealth, car collections, etc. When perusing the C&MA pages, it is not difficult to find the Japanese ballon-bomb connection as well as Scottish connections to this Xian mafia, Edinburgh being one of the cities of concern in our exegesis of the drug assemblage.
     
  10. Piney

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    Saw the: Chernobyl horror flick on the tube. Radiation mutated creatures on a rampage.

    Great timing to air the movie during this crisis.
     
  11. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    The Russians are saying that the elected prime minister of Ukraine was ousted by pro-American folks in their parliament. The guy was elected by a majority of Ukrainians-in democratic elections. Alex Jones is now reporting that America has sent in Blackwater forces to start the dirty work, meaning not allowed under Geneva rules.
    Similarly in Egypt, Tunisia, Iran, Panama, Chile and other countries, America has staged revolts to kick out democratically elected leaders and install dictators. Pinochet and Mubarak have been some of the worst torturers, and were supported by America. Aren't we supposed to stand for freedom and democracy?
     
  12. phyrefly

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    International Women's Day was on 8 Mar 2014. Here we link Noor Inayat Khan to the Kremlin and C&MA kidnapping at the leprosarium by the Viet Cong on 30 May 1962, to the following day, 31 May 1962. On 31 May 1962, Adolf Eichmann was hanged. This links to the Lepidoptera model we have developed and the capture of Pseudoautomeris along the road from Sucre to Camiri, Bolivia, on Fidel Castro's birthday in 1990. The lepidoptera link to Adolf Eichmann is Itzpapalotl, "Obsidian Butterfly" Rothschildia Orizaba. Indeed, it was a Jewish merchant at Orizaba who was accosted by the Catholics and sent back to Europe on a ship. The merchant, however, never arrived in Europe. This story is extant in the literature, yet to cite it would alert the Nazis and it would be immediately burned.

    Noor Inayat Khan aka "Madeleine"
    http://scandalouswoman.blogspot.com/2013/01/code-name-madeline-life-of-noor-inayat-khan.html

    The Viennese Rothschild Family and Adolf Hitler's Final Revenge Upon His Rothschild Cousins
    http://destination-yisrael.biblesea...inal-revenge-upon-his-Rothschild-cousins.html
    '....Eichmann was in Vienna to personally direct the location of the vast collections that were confiscated in that august city....'

    'She was born in the Kremlin, incredibly enough, a descendent of the Tiger of Mysore, the last Muslim ruler in South India. Her father had been invited to teach Sufism to the Tsar in 1912. Her name was Noor Inayat Khan "Light of Womanhood." Her American mother was the niece of the founder of Christian Science....The Gestapo had a full description of her but knew only her code name, Madeleine. They deployed considerable forces in their effort to catch her and so break the last remaining link with London...."She was taken with three others to Dachau camp on the 12th of September, 1944," concluded the notice outside St. James Place. "On arrival, she was taken to the crematorium and shot." '
    (Stevenson W, A Man Called Intrepid)
     
  13. Wizardofodd

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    I am curious about what might be in those pyramids.
     
  14. meridianwest

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    Ukraine already is independent, moron.
     
  15. happilyinlove

    happilyinlove with myself :p

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    US needs to butt out of Russia's business. And the Ukranians need to take more responsibility for their current situation.

    Its true, if the peninsula were occupied and land leased by Americans, we would do exactly as Russia is doing.
     
  16. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    The US and Russia both signed off that the Ukraine should be an independent state, seems like it is both of their business.
     
  17. phyrefly

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    Because of capital and the economic hitmen already installed, Ukraine is not independent, as should soon be evident. At Endgame Beginning Worldwar3, The World at War megathread will be closing at midnight, so perusal of that material is suggested.
     
  18. CoZMiC WiZDoM RaW VeGaN

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  19. loveincarnate

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    anymore history?
     
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