UK to Start Banning People from the Internet!

I for one must say, Skip displays an incredible amount of grace when it comes to err, uhh,
how should I say it...disparaging remarks on this site.

Thank you Skip.

ZW

 

europe is on its way down to the gutter. i heard lithuania already has existing laws to ban certain information on the internet --anything detrimental to the marriage, including information about homosexuality AND images of heterosexual intercourse. i don't know exactly how they enforce that law over there or how and if they actually punish anybody, but the fact that it's gone into law shows how screwed up things are becoming.

 

The start of a close minded britain

 

William Wallace, Joan of Arc, George Washington and Mahatma Gandhi could have told you that!

 

The thing that confuses me...
Why is it that most people don't want things to be this way, but these laws get passed anyhow?

 

The slide backwards into the Dark Age has begun.

 

well people don't actually get to vote on which laws should be effected and which not. it's actual lawmakers who make the laws, and on average, i think, most legislators are older people, starting from their 50s. and older people tend to pass this kind of idiocy more easily than younger due to the differential in upbringing, i would assume. so the laws tend to follow behind the cultural trends and contemporary state of mind. in some ways that's good, in others not so much.

also, there tend to be certain trends, within the cultural space of a nation, certain happenings, situations, that piss some people off. sometimes laws can be a reaction to those trends/situations.

there obviously is a problem within the legislature as a whole. and all the laws that get passed shouldn't be taken as being infallible. i think there should be a reformation of the system as a whole, but effecting that flawlessly is no less of a problem than the ones we already have.

 

This happened up here a year ago..Something does need to be done about cyberbullying..

Bullying suspected as reason for Cooperstown girl's suicide
Early Thursday, a couple hours before the sun rose in Cooperstown, N.D., 16-year-old Cassidy Joy Andel posted a note on her Facebook page: “My time has come, and so I’m gone. To a better place, far beyond. I love you all as you can see. But it’s better now, because I’m free.” www.inforum.com/event/article/id/297225/

I never hear if they did prosecute the person or not..Hope so..Should they be banned completly???I think instead of a blanket law to look into each case individually and some should be blocked from certain areas and perhaps some should be banned..

 

Internet bullying is dodgey, my little brother got a load of it about a year ago and he was in tears at some points... but... shit happens. I'd rather be called a twat on facebook than have the shit kicked out of me down an alley way.

I'm definitely gonna form a tribe and live in the fuckend of nowhere if bullshit laws like this start to get passed. I want whatever these cunts are smoking.

 

start?

 

It really ANGERS me that a whole generation of politicians seems to think that the answer to everything is to BAN somebody (or even everybody) from doing something.

This is a gotesque over-reaction.

Hey, I know ... let's ban all shoplifters from entering any shops. Wouldnt' THAT be a good idea. No more shoplifting ... the economy would recover in a trice. So what if all those shoplifters starve to death because there's no way for them to buy food. They were all criminals anyway. And if they're really hungry, gee, why don't they go and get an allotment and grow their own stuff?

See how absurd it gets if the same attitude is applied in other spheres?

Our whole society grew up around the idea that you were free to act as you saw fit ... but that if you transgressed against the socially accepted and legally defined norms, then you would be punished. It's actually quite a good model for a free and tolerant society. Why don't we go back to it?

There was a guy I used to do business with over the internet. He provided a service ... and a very good one. He was very talented. He's got some expensive things of mine to work on. Suddenly, he stopped answering e-mails and there was a lot of complaints that he wasn't returning work to people.

It transpired he'd been convicted of child pornography offences in the past, and was subject to a blanket ban on the use of the internet. They found out he was using e-mail to run a business and make a living, so they threw him back in prison for another year, depite the fact that there was no evidence he'd been using the internet for anything other than running his business, which depended heavily upon e-mail.

Well, how stupid is that???

Quite apart from the fact that a lot of us have lost expensive property as a result, it is clear that nobody is going to employ him so he's gonna be a big welfare burden on the state unless he can build his own business. He has a great and very marketable talent. He ries to run a business marketing it inte only way you can in this modern electronic-communications age, so they throw him in prison for it. Utterly, utterly absurd!

 

i suppose if people hadn't logged on to twitter

and starting telling each other they wanted to stab the others first born

as they rape their mothers also

we'd not be having this conversation.

 

I agree...this seems to be a problem that has it's roots in the education system. Along the line somwhere, we forgot to educate the kids that "sticks and stones can break your bones, but words can never hurt you"...I agree that when this becomes a problem in "real life", it should be addressed appropriately.

The internet has become second nature to most of us but it still needs to remain as free as possible. It is our number one tool to network and create change, through discussions like this one. It is the thing that scares the ones that control everything else, since it is so hard to manage. It remains our responsibility to teach our children on how to use the internet, and how to live life..."real" life...that doesn't involve cyber-anything. That involves real relationships, not virtual ones.

 

Nail - head - HIT! :daisy:

 

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Why do we need even MORE LAWS that do nothing but strip away basic human rights? Especially when these kinds of laws are so easily abused for political or economic motivations?

 

the net is impossible to police for the simple facts that you can be who you want to be plus the growing use of smartphones and the ability to access the net on a variety of devices. If I get banned from using the net on my laptop then I will use the pc's at work under a different name or I will use my smartfone or buy another laptop, etc. (If, though you have your real photo up somewhere then obviously this can be saved for future ref)

However on the other side of the coin there's an example in the UK of how the feds were able to catch people who instigated or participated in the summer riots - they checked peoples texts and facebook entries to catch and convict people. Unlucky!! This didn't apply to blackberry messages though as for some reason they are untraceable or at least they were ate the time..

 

Natbifta,
I wish it were as easy as faking your name.
We all leave cybertrails and have internet addresses that need masking.
If you really want to be anonymous, there are additional steps to take.
If the government forces Internet hosts to release your name, you may have to take additional steps to remain unknown.
But don't worry, it can be done and the information on how to do it is out there.

 

Oh wah. You did it to me last year, remember? But I'm a big boy & don't let it bother me. I got over it. You.... who knows if you got over it.

First it's the UK. Then.... who's next? Canada? US? France?
And now it's bullies. Next they will broaden the definition of cyber bullying, and include telling on the government's many misdeeds. The truth being made public scares the government. Today, cyber-bullies. Tomorrow, it could be us.