Uh-piff-uh-knee.

God's unwilling to save people from eternal agaony for being foolish? Thats the opposite of mercy.

And god doesn't have to hang out with people he doesn't like. He could send 'em to Wisconsin or something, not great, but it isn't eternal torture.

 

dogma?

 

Whoa... Chuck is in hell... sorta.

 

it was an oversimplification

but frankly would you deserve to go to heaven while you deny it's existence

and athiesm promises nothing but nothingness, an end, blackness, an abyss

 

Are you afraid, Dave?

 

religion makes you afraid

 

no, but athiesm promises you nothing, do you really want a system that promises you that the bad people who got rich destroying others really did get out ahead?

 

]no, but athiesm promises you nothing, do you really want a system that promises you that the bad people who got rich destroying others really did get out ahead?[/QUOTE]

so would you believe in a religion becasue of that

 

Why wait for some kinda karma to kick them in the ass? If someones doing something that I think is wrong, I try and stop it... I can't do everything of course, and yes a lotta times, nice guys finish last. Then they die.

But they can still be happy in the mean time, and do everything they can to make the world now better. The world can be bittersweet, but it's still worth doing while the gettin's good.

 

I didn't know there was a strip club next to my house til my friend took me, and it was pretty nice.

I still ask you, why is god so shallow that he'd make his nature so vauge, and then punish people so viciously for having doubts?

Who doesn't deserve heaven? The good natured dope, or the omnipotent despot?

Atheism promises nothing. Life has the meaning you give it, and eventually you will die, and you're life probably won't have meant much.

I'm okay with that, I don't see nothingness as good or bad, its the state of the universe which everything will return too. Life as an atheist can be beautiful and meaningful, but it is ephermial.

Anyway, I'm going to stop trying to push it on ya. I just meant to say something smart ass and be on me way.

Take care of yourself Techie.

 

that is the most depressing view of life I've ever heard

and if there is no after-life then why don't you just develop some skills and go about assasinating corrupt individuals?

 

cus all the money youd make could corrupt you. and the world population would decline idf you were to succeed

 

never said you had to get paid doing it

and the world is overpopulated anyway

if there is no god there is no good and evil beyond mans belief of it, there is no creature higher than me and I should be able to make the descision what I do, who I kill and how I avoid capture

to believe in right and wrong is to believe in god

if only in a very simplistic manner

 

isnt an assassin a hired killer. who gets paid. that what i always thought.

 

Once you accept that your life is just a speck of organic matter that graces the universe, it's pretty sweet.

I feel very lucky to have the time I've got. I have a roof over my head, I'm going to school, I have a beautiful girlfriend, I have great friends... I couldn't really ask for more then the time I've got now.

It's going to end, so why not appreciate it?

I don't deserve to pick who lives and dies because they may seem corrupt to me. They might have familes and friends who love them, and they might be doing good things that I can't see.

There are much better things I can do to help out then strike out with some sorta vengance. I'm going to school for agronomy and agriculture economics, so I can work for the WFP or the Rockefeller foundation, and help feed hungry people.

If it doesn't end up working out, I can always sit around investing in futures and enjoying myself.I don't really know the future, but I am enjoying myself now, so what more could I want?

 

can be, but if one is to use that definition most strictly then jfk wasn't assasinated, nor was lincoln


the meaning of the word has changed dramatically through the ages from pot eating muslims to paid killers to killers from a distance

 

the officer that killed john wilkes booth castrated himslef.

 

you know, you have your opinion, I have mine, I'm not going to change yours nor you mine, this pseudo debate is as virtually all other on-line debates pointless, no matter how good my points are one still needs faith, no matter how good yours are I have faith and a pretty good idea what the world might look like without it


and you cannot tell me that trendy athiests do not piss you off as much as "I'm a christian because my parents were" christians piss me off.......

 

Well no, I don't believe in good or evil.

I don't kill people because I don't want to hurt people, if you think that you'd really be helping the world out by murdering people who you think need to be, I can't really stop you, But I think it's a very simple way to look at the world, and I think you'd be doing a lot of harm to the friends of family of the people you killed.

Empathy is the very nature of what it is to be human. If theres nothing to punish me, why shouldn't I be able to kill who I want seems mildly sociopathic. I'm not calling you a sociopath, I'm just trying to let you see what I thinks wrong with that argument.

I don't subjegate myself to anything, but I still don't want to hurt other people.

 

True that, I usually duck out of these kinds of things pretty quickly. just take care of yourself buddy.

Unless they're doing it to get chicks.