UFOs: Inteligent beings or Demons from Hell?

the bible contains more translation errors that any other book in history...if you want the truth go to the original source for these stories....research the ancient egyptions and what they believed....yes 3000 years before christ was allegidly born...

 

Moses wrote the bible..

Moses was educated in an Egyptian palace school....He was taught from an older document that was some 2000 (don't quote me on that...it was thousands of years earlier...) He realised that this epic that he was being taught was about his own people/tribe the...Hebrews...(From Abraham and Noah...) He then rose up a rebellion, enjoined his people into a physical force and led them out of Egypt...AND THEN WROTE THE BIBLE'S FIRST PART......

The original that Moses took his inspiration from still exists today....I've checked it out............Good Idea if you check it out too.....pre dates the bible and the bible has excerpts from it...

This is the start of the learning curve...Keep at it cause it has a long and winding path.....If you are searching for the TRUTH...Keep going till you find it....and BTW...do not be afraid to look and back up all that is quoted as TRUTH.....

BON VOYAGE..

Love you all

strawpuppy

 

If Moses just took his stories from other writings, why have they discovered Moses's Red Sea Crossing point and why are they finding the bottom with coral incrusted human bones, spears, and charriot wheels? I think this is part of the learning curve too.

Check out Ron Wyatt's website...
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm

 

im talking about how so many cutures around the world...including eqypt have deities much like christ...being born of a virgin mother...being killed only to return 3 days later...suposed to return again, ect. ect. ect. the egyptions had a god named horus born of a virgin...crucified and returned 3 days later...and is prophesised to return again. interesting is it not? the egyptions had this god thousands of years before christianity or christ. CHRISTIANITY IS RECYCLED PAGANISM...SAME STORIES...SAME SYMBOLISM...DIFFERENT DATES AND NAMES

 

here are some more deities that tell teh same "jesus" story:

• Adad of Assyria
• Adonis, Apollo, Heracles ("Hercules") and Zeus of Greece
• Alcides of Thebes
• Attis of Phrygia
• Baal of Phoenicia
• Bali of Afghanistan
• Beddru of Japan
• Buddha of India
• Crite of Chaldea
• Deva Tat of Siam
• Hesus of the Druids
• Horus, Osiris, and Serapis of Egypt, whose long-haired, bearded appearance was adopted for the Christ character
• Indra of Tibet/India
• Jao of Nepal
• Krishna of India
• Mikado of the Sintoos
• Mithra of Persia
• Odin of the Scandinavians
• Prometheus of Caucasus/Greece
• Quetzalcoatl of Mexico
• Salivahana of Bermuda
• Tammuz of Syria (who was, in a typical mythmaking move, later turned into the disciple Thomas)
• Thor of the Gauls
• Universal Monarch of the Sibyls
• Wittoba of the Bilingonese
• Xamolxis of Thrace
• Zarathustra/Zoroaster of Persia
• Zoar of the Bonzes

 

Horus of Egypt

• Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger, with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.
• He was a child teacher in the Temple and was baptized when he was 30 years old.
• Horus was also baptized by "Anup the Baptizer," who becomes "John the Baptist."
• He had 12 disciples.
• He performed miracles and raised one man, El-Azar-us, from the dead.
• He walked on water.
• Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
• He was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected.
• He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light, the Messiah, God's Anointed Son, the Son of Man, the Good Shepherd, the Lamb of God, the Word" etc.
• He was "the Fisher," and was associated with the Lamb, Lion and Fish ("Ichthys").
• Horus's personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father."
• Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One," long before the Christians duplicated the story.

 

Mythra of Persia


Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25th.
He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
He had 12 companions or disciples.
He performed miracles.
He was buried in a tomb.
After three days he rose again.
His resurrection was celebrated every year.
Mithra was called "the Good Shepherd."
He was considered "the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah."
He was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.
His sacred day was Sunday, "the Lord's Day," hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter, at which time he was resurrected.
His religion had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper"

 

Krishna of India



Krishna was born of the Virgin Devaki ("Divine One")
His father was a carpenter.
His birth was attended by angels, wise men and shepherds, and he was presented with gold, frankincense and myrrh.
He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants.
He was of royal descent.
He was baptized in the River Ganges.
He worked miracles and wonders.
He raised the dead and healed lepers, the deaf and the blind.
Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love.
"He lived poor and he loved the poor."
He was transfigured in front of his disciples.
In some traditions he died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves.
He rose from the dead and ascended to heaven.
Krishna is called the "Shepherd God" and "Lord of lords," and was considered "the Redeemer, Firstborn, Sin Bearer, Liberator, Universal Word."
He is the second person of the Trinity, and proclaimed himself the "Resurrection" and the "way to the Father."
He was considered the "Beginning, the Middle and the End," ("Alpha and Omega"), as well as being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
His disciples bestowed upon him the title "Jezeus," meaning "pure essence."
Krishna is to return to do battle with the "Prince of Evil," who will desolate the earth.

 

Must i continue? if you dont belive me i DARE you to do the research

there is so much more evidence that "christ" as we know him never existed that has nothing to do with older sources for the same stories

 

Hi there,

It is exciting to hear that they have found that evidence...
I'm not saying he did not exist, but that he was probably very clever, did some research into what he was being taught, concluded that the ancient writings were of his own people (the Hebrews)....then got them together to start the exodus to the promised land..

I also saw a documentary on how a volcano that errupted around that time drained the water out of the Red sea...

It's all very interesting...

The path you go down depends on the questions you ask and the answers you get........It's all so very personal, just reading posts here over the last 6 months has been an eye opener for me...

strawpuppy

 

Watch out for Ron Wyatt's research. I like his theory on the exodus point, but his work on Noah's arc is complete bunk. He asserts many things that we know to be completely untrue. Like wood fossilized in 4000 years or that trees didn't have growth rings before then. Wood takes millions of years to fossilize and there are tress still alive (growth rings and all) that are over 4,800 years old. How do you trust someone who peddles complete falsehoods to prove his point and further his cause?

 

Who's he...did someone quote him...if so which bit?

thanks....

strawpuppy

 

I think some aliens are from the future and some are from the past. I think there intelligent and im may have seen a ufo once! lolol.

 

UFO's can be almost anything, a UFO can be a simple vapour of gas, that we don't know about.

but in general i think the "genuine UFOS" are piloted by some devloped superhumans from the future.

I mean have you noted the descriptions of Aliens, they are almost like humans only they are missing some features and have some features we don't have.

but I read some aritcle by some crazy man that he clamied that jesus whould come down to earth, in UFO right before jugment day.

I don't know what that man meant exactly, but its sounds a little hard to grasp.

I'm stil trying to understand Ezekiel's accounts in the bible they seam like aliens or ufos to me.

 

Thethirdbenjamin,

"UFO's can be almost anything, a UFO can be a simple vapour of gas, that we don't know about."

-Well what we do know about aliens is they have hurt many people over the years by burning them, injecting them with foriegn substances, scaring them psychologically, ect. Also they embrace all world religions except Christianity. They seem to have a great dislike for Jesus Christ. Which may give you a window as to what they are about. Eziekel mentions a vision of God which some interpret as a flying saucer. One thing for sure, the UFOs have a future agenda which will more likely be tied into the coming Antichrist and not Jesus.

Learn more....

http://r-campbell34.tripod.com/babylon

 

what makes you think they embrace all world religions exept christianity?? i can only guess your information has come from christians and christian sources. certin alien races are driven by fear...thats their role in this spiritual war. perhaps its just that christians are more fearful of such things, but it isnt because their christians that they get fucked with. loose your fear and you have nothing to fear...these entities wont wast their time with a strong spirit.

also its of my opinion that the site you posted has mounds of misinformation.
such misinformation is meant to keep people in fear...we have nothing to fear.

this "apocalypse" is not going to come as teh pope would have us believe...not the end of the world but rather, the end of an age...begining of a new. our collective conciousness will trancend the 4th and become part of the 5th dimension. sure we will see some hard times before its over, but this is a great time to be apart of...we're playing out the most beautiful time in our history...the end game.


...dont take anything i say personal if you dont agree, im just speaking my mind

 

loverofthewoods,


"certin alien races are driven by fear...thats their role in this spiritual war. perhaps its just that christians are more fearful of such things, but it isnt because their christians that they get fucked with. loose your fear and you have nothing to fear...these entities wont wast their time with a strong spirit."

-Now where do you get your fear philosophy...Is it your own?? Tell your slogan to the people that have been abducted and sexually abused by them. And yes the specific site i looked at was a christian website... There are not many secular websites on this subject out there however there has been studies on UFOs and religion and they have came up with the same conclusion.


"also its of my opinion that the site you posted has mounds of misinformation. such misinformation is meant to keep people in fear...we have nothing to fear."
-Yes, I can tell it is your opinion. Such information is for to warn people about what is going to happen. It is not made up by a single person but from the Bible. If you have a problem with the story then I am sure you have a problem with the Bible. You would have to white out the Bible to not believe this story. I ready to debate the Bible's validity at any time...


"...dont take anything i say personal if you dont agree, im just speaking my mind"

-I never take anything on this forum personal, its just a simple debate

 

-Now where do you get your fear philosophy...Is it your own?? Tell your slogan to the people that have been abducted and sexually abused by them. And yes the specific site i looked at was a christian website... There are not many secular websites on this subject out there however there has been studies on UFOs and religion and they have came up with the same conclusion.

mostly i speak from personal expirience...and the race i refer to are the reptilians. it is just a theory but many who study them would say the same


You would have to white out the Bible to not believe this story. I ready to debate the Bible's validity at any time...

refer to my previous posts in this thread...i think the bible is incredibly inaccurate and contains many many translation errors. (or at least the popular versions like king james...im not sure about the original as iv never read it)


i guess no one really knows what these entities are all about (how could they?)...its just one of those things we can only speculate on

 

loverofthewoods,

The people that try to prove the Bible wrong only usually search for literature and websites against the Bible because they do not want to believe the truth because then they will have to change, change for the good and people love their evil ways. People will go to great heights in attempt to prove the Bible wrong just so they continue their sinful lives.

Christians are always referred to as narrow minded but the real narrow minded people are the ones who dont check out what the Bible is really about.

This man was like most other people in the world he passed off the Bible as ancient history and no longer relevent to this world. Until he actually checked what the Bible was really about, then he saw the truth...




THE BIGGEST SKEPTIC IN THE WORLD: IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME
(courtesy of http://bibledesk.com/)
To the best of my memory, before I came to the saving grace of Jesus Christ, I did not believe the Bible was true. I doubted whether there was a God and believed that we were born, lived so many years, and then died. I owned a successful business and thought that I had succeeded by my own wits.
One evening, my wife and I heard some documentation that these were the last days before Jesus Christ would actually return. Not really wanting to hear it, I almost walked out. Something kept me there, and I listened. I was not convinced. I still had doubts whether or not there was a God. I doubted whether there really was a Satan, heaven, hell, or a judgment. Just to be sure, however, I decided to do a little research. My idea was to find out if the Bible was really true. Indeed, if I could find one contradiction, one error, or anything in the Bible that was not true, then that would be all that was needed to disregard it. (I wasn't necessarily interested in whether we were in the latter days or not, but just trying to find out if the Bible was really true.) I believed this would take a very short time.
As I have learned, the Bible has about 10,000 prophecies (verses). Nearly one-third of the Bible is directly or indirectly related to prophecy. This endeavour led me into far more research than I could have suspected. One thing needed, was to determine when the Bible was actually written. Because of this, a study of biblical history and archaeology was necessary. I found the Old Testament was indeed written before the coming of Jesus, as the Dead Sea Scrolls (containing parts of the book of Isaiah) were proven to have been written before Jesus came. The book of Isaiah includes forecasts of Jesus. Thousands of clay tablets have also been found, which confirm many accounts in the Bible.
I began studying the prophecies in the Bible. My wife would go to the library for me to obtain documentation from reference books to see if the prophecies really did take place. One day went by, then two days, and then a week. Every prophecy that we were able to get information on proved to be accurate. Two weeks went by. Then four weeks passed. My job became of secondary importance. Every prophecy that we were able to verify checked as being true. I was astonished, but far from convinced. I still had doubts as to whether there was a God, a heaven, or a hell yet I had to be sure. Later, there were people who would show me what appeared to be contradictions in the Bible, yet these were not contradictions at all, but only a lack of research on the part of those that said these things. I was searching to find if the Bible was true. My wife spent a lot of time at the library making copies of various reference materials, which I would check out against the Scriptures. Stubborn, that's me. Even after four weeks of intensive study, proving prophecy after prophecy was true, I was still skeptical and refused to believe. I began taking more time off from my business and investing it in study. One month turned into two, and two months turned into four. The more I researched, the more determined I became. It wasn't possible. The Bible could not be perfect. Thousands of prophecies, and every one perfect? No, impossible! Sixty-six books written by many people over hundreds of years and not one error? If I would admit that, I would have to admit there was a God, and I was not prepared to do it, even after months of research.
My studies also included various translations of the Bible, checking prophecies against reference books, archaeological discoveries, just to mention some. It became an obsession with me. My foremost desire was to know the truth. Four months turned into many months. I've never known anyone, before or since, that was willing to take this amount of time just to find out if the Bible was true. Finally, I had to admit I was wrong.
If you would walk across the street 10,000 times and never get hit, then you would walk across the street the next time by faith. So it was with me. Finally, after spending almost countless hours of research, I had to admit the Bible is true and is indeed the perfect Word of God. Anyone willing to take the time I did and do the same research, could only come to the same conclusion, if they are honest with themselves. I may have been the biggest skeptic in the world, but now I know. It did not come easy, but by God's mercy and grace, it did come.

 

Hey popthree, I was looking at other forums and I came across a comment you had about UFOs:



"Maybe our planet has been under alien control since the late 40's... I am not saying it is... but who's to say it ain't? "


It's intresting how these "aliens" start showing up in the same time period that the Bible gives when Christ will return. The Bible says when the Jews return to Israel that that generation will not pass. Well the Jews returned to Israel in 1948. There will be people still living from 1948 when Christ returns. And like you said these aliens or UFOs started showing up in the 1940's. In the end, God will send a powerful delusion. As one can see-or maybe not-this has already started. The delusion is already in play and many already are believing the lie all because "they refuse to believe the truth."

2 Thess. 2:10-12
"and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness."

After the true Christians are Raptured, the AntiChrist will step forward
and explained the disappearance away as a final UFO abduction. The Antichrist will declare that the final abduction was to get rid of the the evil people-the Christians. This new leader will exercise control over strange light ships of the sky, and he will take credit for removing those who would oppose his rule. People will be amazed with his miracles and with his backing of the "intelligent beings" people will say, "Who would make war with this man?" The world will believe that the UFOs came to help them, only to discover too late that their occupants are really demons from Hell. Then will begin the time of unimaginable horrors and the reign of the Anti-Christ."