U.s. Tanks Roll Into Germany To Protect Against Potential Russian Invasion

The way that the world works now - a show of strength is only that - far easier and dreadful things can be, have been, are being and will be done in the future.
Covert intelligence is the burden that (sadly) we all have to accept
Remembering the things that happened in the 60s (too young to recall the 50s) there was - genuine - fear, distrust, prejudice and hatred - Not to mention that physical barrier of divided family,friends and lovers - this can only be seen as a backward step in the international relationship - (then again, Trump does like a Wall)

 

Einstein said, "I know not what weapons world war 3 will be fought with, but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones."

Most people think of a serious conflict between the superpowers as always being about someone pushing the button and destroying the world. If it were that simple Vietnam would never have happened.

 

Vietnam was about an ideology of One Country being a battleground fought by Super Powers - (aside from the fact that the French started it!) in a land far away. Okay 'Tactical Nukes were not used, although Chemical weapons were - the like of such still continue to have aftermath
Times and weaponry have significantly changed - as too have the head of states - who do not remember the World was in conflict
= If there was a WW3 - there will be No W left, for any kind of W - ... I fear

 

'world war' is just a description as well. Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Even if there would be a military conflict between Russia and EU it is really too soon to call it any kind of world war, just because it would involve Russia, some parts of Europe AND the US.

 

Politicians can claim all the ideology they want, but Vietnam was about real estate which only goes up in value the smaller the world becomes. Neither China nor Russia wanted the US for a neighbor anymore than we want Russia in Cuba. It brings down the local real estate values.

 

Real Estate Values = a bit too much of a Capitalist belief than a humane one

 

It was about fear of communism. Otherwise US wouldn't have been there in the first place. But seems too losely associated with this thread topic to get really into that... here at least! After all, todays concerns about Russia aren't about communism anymore.

 

When money and guns do most of the talking worth listening to humane becomes synonymous with low, low prices.

 

If that means that finance is the cost of Liberty, then it is so the right time to change the currency

 

All is not gold that glitters, all is not pure that shines, the guy holding the nickel plated revolver tells everyone what their money and free time are worth.

 

That's something I could never subscribe to

 

That is how the whole world economy is run. He who dies with the most toys wins and the US has enough nuclear weapons alone to destroy the entire world perhaps six times over.

 

If one accepts that, then one may as well throw in the towel now - a change will come if conviction, resilience and perseverance are employed - Change is never straight forward and can be testing but it is always better to try, than lie - down

 

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

In order to prevent being fooled again you have to first figure out how to create a better system and insisting that it is futile you create your own reality.

Resilience applies to self-organizing systems and the system we have is a self-organizing system, but a primitive one that can become ever so much more subtle, complex, and humane. Getting to that point requires both heart and brains for without the love and courage in our hearts we can never have the brains to accomplish anything humane.

 

Not true in the case of Corbyns (people backed) Labour Party = Onto a rocky road, the first steps are always going to be difficult, but with an intention of belief clearly stated (twice) they are indeed the first steps to change - it is momentum that needs to continue
But I think this is going off-topic - since the deployment is open - and obvious, it seems to be a visual declaration of statement- and support of/for NATO forces already on the front line - again political chess playing

 

You are talking about Briton which actually still has a constitution worth more than toilet paper and where the wealthy still need the cooperation of labor. Even then, the British are merely supporting the money and guns of the empire of the US because they too know which side of their bread is buttered and the consequences of not supporting the US.

This is no visual declaration, they don't deploy that kind of fire power just to make a statement. If they merely wanted to make a statement they would send a carrier or two for a show of power, but redeploying troops and tanks close to Russia means they are preparing for action and ready to dig in for the duration. Tanks in Germany are partly to reassure the Germans, but tanks in Poland is something entirely new and very provocative to the Russians who can't stand the thought that they no longer own that territory and are more vulnerable to invasion. Putin threatening nuclear war was a sign of just how vulnerable he is feeling at this time knowing the US can walk all over him and there is little he can do.

 

. like I said Chess playing, or perhaps more akin to Poker - with a poor bluff

 

There's no bluff, NATO is the US military moving tanks into Poland and is similar to when the Soviets first moved missiles into Cuba. These days submarines on both sides have nuclear missiles that squirt nitrogen out the nose allowing them to travel at up to 350mph underwater, then leap out of the water right over a target like NYC. Not that they actually have to leave the water to do serious damage at that range, but they're more effective if they're over the target. It was an experimental version of one that caused the Russian submarine to sink several years back killing all hands. Anyway, the point is getting things like a shitload of nuclear missiles close to a target fast is no longer a concern, but both the US and Russia are already producing automated tanks and they're inherently slower, and the Russians have no way to invade the US over land.

NATO is in Poland for the long haul and we'll just have to wait and see about Germany where it is more of a political issue. Neither the Russians nor the US would hesitate to invade one another if they thought they had a real chance of pulling it off without unacceptable losses.

 

..which was bluffing as well. Did they use those missiles? NO they were planted there to send a message, make a statement. To threaten but only to be used if really really neccessary. In the same way NATO forces in the EU are showing their muscles. It IS pure bluff, symbolic posing. If no one acts crazy about it, nothing crazy will happen military-wise. Similar to the soviet missiles in Cuba.