It really depends on what you are watching whether or not tv is good for you. take, for example, the discovery channel, the animal planet,, etc. the only things on these channels are things you learn, not stupid "reality tv" junk that gets you nowhere in the long run. but i do agree about tv being a tool used by the government to control the population. along with movies, and magazines. just look at how our actions are affected by the things we watch, expecially as children. now, the internet contains so many varieties of ways to spend your time. you COULD read a bunch of bullshit, or you could do this...interact with other people, actually interacting and not getting what the government puts out there for you. you CAN get truth on the internet alot easier than the tv. half of what you see or hear on tv is bullshit. what im saying isnt directly inspired by the government, i have my opinions, just as you all do. now, i can better believe what you all are saying rather than the tv. i say directly because they arent telling us what to say, like the commercials you watch are, and the tv shows. we are all programmed by the government in some way, we have no choice, it starts with your parents, they're programmed, and we grow up on tv and media just like they did. so our thoughts may be partially because of what we see and hear from tv and movies. does anyone get me? i dont even know if what i typed makes sense to anyone but me, lol.
dude, check out Spearhead. That's his current band. They fucking rock! http://www.spearheadvibrations.com/index.html (edit) in reply to Nemesis
Some TV is lamentable but Television can be enjoyable & enlightening if you are more selective of what you watch. Some people have the Telly on all day - that is what can rot your Brain. Television transmissions will inevitably metamorphasize when terrestrial transmission signals are finally turned off & all T.V. is digital through telephone lines.
Well I agree with most of you on this thread. 90% of the shit on tv is bullshit. I like using my mind to entertain myself. The only thing I watch on tv is football and every once in a while a movie. The only reason why I do have cable is because I needed it to get road runner. Yea, but keep on reading. Wisdom is a very dangerous weapon.
Whoa, there Sugar-- "I never said I didn't like or watch TV." "The big sign SAYS: TV - PROPAGANDA TOOL? CHEWING GUM FOR THE MIND? PAST ITS PRIME? YOU DECIDE!" Somebody tell me--"Uh, I don't see so good. Is that Bill Shakespeare over there...?" -Chris Farley. How would I have an opinion IF I never watched TV? That's why I came in here to post this thread. The springboard graphic was done in sympathetic response to an Aussie guy who made the original point to begin with. This Topic with that exact wording had obviously been one of a Major topics initiated by the Site way before my time on Hip Forums. It's asking people's honest opinions pro or con. Or not... I don't see how that's raining on anyone's parade. It doesn't appear like going into a forum & starting a purposeful conflict by contradicting everyone. I don't see an exact parallel to someone (not me) going into the vegan forum & bashing people sympathetic to that lifestyle by telling them they just ate a 16 ounce steak, medium rare. MY THREAD appears perfectly harmonious with the above theme, Gee Whiz: "The big Heading SAYS: TV - PROPAGANDA TOOL? CHEWING GUM FOR THE MIND? PAST ITS PRIME? YOU DECIDE!" I don't see people posting on this thread having a tizzy. If you are a Moderator, you need to uphold the proclaimed Freedom of Speech within the parameters of the general topic. I'm not bustin up the party here. Don't get all paranoid. Your Forum Topic is not going to go away because somebody voices an honest opinion to the contrary. TV may be be morphing into Computers. I admitted I too am a computer addict, although I found I was watching too much TV. I indicated the difference, passive & active. Most people agreed. I think you moderators only have time to read the Titles & you don't actually know what is going on in the mood of the moment. I've been hammered on twice now for posting something that was totally within the defined parameters, just because some Overlooker didn't really read what was going on. As far as logic can tell, Moderators are here in the capacity of Impartial Observers, Referees; (1) to keep the threads within the topics, (2) to keep people within the thread, (3) to keep people from posting porn (4) to keep people from dealing drugs, (5) to keep YOU from being sued (6) to keep from offending your advertisers. If so, then you're out of line! You can kick me off for this. But people will know why. And I've contributed a lot in my short time here. Maybe you feel your job is threatened. I don't want it. I just enjoy participating & I know that I add a lot to this site. I do original graphics & post meaningful & stirring threads that encourage participation. I want to bring back a little of the original meaning of hippie, which is not up-tight & anal. Hey, if it doesn't make people GLAD, MAD OR SAD--what good is it? Why have a HIPPIE FORUM. Why don't we all post on the Wall Street Forum about our 9-5 jobs & how much we love Bush & Just Saying NO or Abstinence on the Catholic Forum? If you don't like me here, I'll start my own BLOG. And that buddy of mine who threw the TV in the dump is a very popular actress's father, who happens to be my best friend. And I stay at their house when I want. I've met her & talked to her on the phone & sometimes even watch her on TV! And the whole world's heard of her. But who in the hell has ever heard of YOU?
I almost always have my T.V. turned on when I'm in my room, I can't count the number of things I've learnt through watching Discovery, PBS, CBC, BBC, History... For the most part I find the programming entertaining and thought provoking, as long as you stay away from the major American networks. Not to mention the film channels; I wouldn't of heard of half the independent films that I love if it wern't for the IFC...
Yeah, God Bless Hunter, man. I know he's on the ultimate trip now "We were somewhere outside of Barstow when the drugs began to kick in..." An art student of mine kept telling me that they made a movie out of 'Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas' with Johnny Depp & that I just had to see it. I'd heard of the book. I had the unlimited BlockHead DVD rental thing then (see I'm not anti-media dammit!) & it was insane. I loved it. Then we lost Thompson & I was more affected since I had connected by having just seen that movie. I do love movies & am a computer geek. I just hate to see what the party-line programming does to the masses. Like you said--American Network TV. Dumb sheep don't pick & choose. They just follow. They don't realize they are being led. I merely used the phrase sarcastically: "TV Rots Your Brain" a line out of that Movie, "Don't Tell Mom, the Babysitter's Dead," if I recall, with Christina Applegate, spoken by Mrs. Sturick, the old & very unpopular babysitter. Funny as all get-out. I think it's cool if people pick & choose their own media. Whenever I watched TV it was PBS or Nature Channel, History or some documentary like Charlie Rose & not the other crap. I always muted the commercials. I just see a Nation of dumb sheep that don't lead--they follow. Read that guys' post about the brainwaves. I think this is worthy of debate & I'm not disparaging anybody but criticizing the indiscriminate use of authority & bias to come down on a topic that was already designed & worded to be a pro & con discussion by this website BEFORE I ever started this THREAD. It's a major Topic. Go > All Forums > "TV - Propaganda Tool? Chewing Gum For the Mind? Past It's Prime? YOU DECIDE!" I didn't post that - Hip Forums did. My drug of choice
skycnavas, you are absolutely clueless. No one is worried about the forum being compromised. No one is worried about the Advertisers on this site (I am not even sure who they are) no one is worried that you want their job. (Not only is a volunteer position, but I don't think there is much chance of that happening.) I was stating MY opinion, that the elitist "I never watch TV" contingent is as ridiculous as the anti-Gays on the Gay forum or the Womyn Bashers on WIF. You have every right to hate TV and even post about it if that is what you feel you need to do with all that time not watching TV has freed up for you. As I am free to think it is a silly thing to start a thread about. But feel free. You are the one with all the free time........and sitting at a computer, which is no better than TV in most people's minds. That particular line is QUITE a bit older than that movie. I remember it on bumper stickers in the 60s.
LOL! OOOOO, you know famous people? Damn I never should have posted something you disagree with. We should know better than to disagree with someone who slept over night at a famous person's house. OMG, start your own BLOG NO, DON'T that would be too much!!!! Please. I don't suppose you consider "self aggrandizing" and name dropping as one of those true meaning of "Hippie?"
Well I hope I'm not considered elitist simply for pointing out some info on the dynamics of what a tv does to ones brain. A constructive discussion over the subject might be nice without rampant emotionalism. However, it seems that when the very large body of research on the subject is presented it is oft greeted with a) let's blow off science because they can't be right b) anger, name calling etc... c) let's compare it to computers. All of this has been studied in great detail and it's a fact that used in the wrong way tv is most definitely not good for the brain. It has caused a drop in cognitive development across the board, acts of violence, and is used as a tool of manipulation towards destructive ends. The television itself though isn't really the problem, it's a tool. Does that mean that by pointing these things out a person is in attack mode? No, just simply stating facts. But, it's the same reaction people get when they try to point out what pollution does, the contents of fast food, or any number of things to which people have developed these personal relationships to, a deep denial of the truth. I got dragged into this thing by 'read that guys post about the brainwaves', so yeah, I'd say read the full text of the article in the link and there's tons more. Does that mean I'm judging people who watch tv? No, do what you want and I have no judgement either way, just maybe a person can make a more informed judgement by knowing more of the facts. Also knowing more of the facts can allow people to understand more about each other and why we do the things we do. Now I'll catch my breath. Peace.
If you don't like me, you probably don't like the horse I rode in on either. Having made that point, there was no way to say what I said & not sound 'self-aggrandizing' to someone. But fully realizing that insecure people might jump to that conclusion, and with time to edit it out, I chose to leave it. That's because it was a logical segway from the anecdote I used to open this thread (TV-Tossing) to that final insult I thought you deserved for doing exactly what you were accusing me of doing. I resent the parallel you keep trying to draw between this thread which I started & some guy who crashes a thread for the disruptive purpose of gay or women-bashing. Are you just shooting in the dark hoping you'll hit something or does labelling people help you compartmentalize thought that differs from your own? For the fair-minded who discount my "shameless self-promotion & unhiplike behavior," focus on the operative words to see the point I was making: 'popular actor's father...threw the TV in the dump': was important to show that even people connected to the media have differences of opinion about TV viewing within their own homes & families or in bringing up their children. 'Happens to be my best friend"...opens me up for examination as it would a reporter; so that the story could be verified or negated. He undoubtedly has many other friends to ask. You really can't doubt somebody's first-hand account without calling them a liar. (I purposely edited the names out so I wouldn't be a 'name-dropper' or embarrass the family.) 'Stay at their house; talk to her on the phone; watch her on TV': were all spoken to contradict your accusation that "I don't like TV (so) I shouldn't watch it!" C'mon--If my buddy's daughter does TV for a living, then WHY would I broad-brush all TV as bad, and if...as you put it, 'I crashed at his pad'? Well, I've known them for about 30 years. But it's true, even my mechanic hung out with some actor families when he was growing up in California. But it didn't rub me the wrong way when he told me so. He was just stating a fact. I applaud the theory that there may be only six degrees of separation between us & everyone else on the planet. So, thank you for overstating the obvious-- that we are able to freely discuss the issues stated under the Topics. That was my point to you & still remains. PS: Sorry, didn't know you were a volunteer; but you didn't know that I make a living sitting at these computers all day & half the night, did you? So the contributions I make to your site are also voluntary. Have a better one. Peace, Love & Understanding
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i agree with this for most channels, though i do quite enjoy paula deen's home cookin, and the discovery channel :H they have cool stuff about the fish waaay down in the ocean
No, element, I don't. I only addressed this thread to say something to the "Oh. I am too cool for TV." groups. Fine, people don't have to watch it. I don't watch all that much, but there are some good, educational (and entertaining) things on TV. Just like sugar or fat, or gambling, or marijuana or anything else, TV can be used or abused. People can become addicted to it, or simply use it as a tool. Too much of anything is bad for you. It just rubbed me the wrong way. Most of the people who do post here will not be impressed with the "We don't even own a TV. We are superior to the unwashed masses." (And oddly enough, most of the people I know who claim this actually DO own one.) This is the message that threads started like this one sends to people. I DO think the "I'm better than most as I do not watch." attitiude IS elitist. There are a hell of a lot of things I don't do, but most posters don't go into those forums and diss the people who enjoy them. "Ewe camping? Don't you have an indoor home?" or "Parenting? The earth is overpopulated, and all you freaking breeders are ruining it." Or "How can you not eat meat? It's good for you." One has EVERY RIGHT to come into a forum and diss it's presence and the people who participate in the activity or lifestyle the forum is about.......but be ready for people who disagree if you do. OTHERWISE WHY would one even BOTHER coming here and posting things like this thread. other than to raise controversy?
Hitler had cool poster, radio, masterfull speeches. today the goverment have the major networks at theyr dispose. "they learn quite well from the germans" so did Castro in cuba. and MTV made car jacking,gangs, low grade music, ugly ass baggy pants very popular by bombarding the brain 24/7 . see the Nazis were very smart.
I agree totaly.. You have prety much covered all that i was going to write ...not quite as amusing as yourself though hahahahaha. In a few years i am sure it will be 'The internet rots your brain'.
_Amen. For me living in a tiny closed minded third world country having a television w/cable has been -would always be- a blessing. & I know you will say: what about Internet? Operative words here are: third world country.
