Tsunami Disaster Relief

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Templedragon, Dec 27, 2004.

  1. whispers

    whispers sweet and sour

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    becareful who you give money to ...one of the best is the red cross with 90% of the funds going to relief aide.......feed the children is one of the worst.
     
  2. Templedragon

    Templedragon Peace through Spirit

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    good call whispers...but can you speak up? I could hardly hear you. :)
     
  3. greeneyedbaby

    greeneyedbaby Member

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    If there really is a god, he is one sick, perverted fuck.
     
  4. Ladylocks

    Ladylocks Banned

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    Man is a sick perverted fuck.


    God is just reminding us of that.
     
  5. Templedragon

    Templedragon Peace through Spirit

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    Really? You boil it all down to that? I think it's a tad egocentric to think that we matter that much to the planet earth. I tend to think that we just happened to be in the way of Earth's growing pains.

    And as much as I would never deny the sick perverted fuckness of man, that's only one side. The other side is beautiful, courageous and deeply compassionate. It is entirely up to us which side we wish to embrace and emulate.

    Personally, I teeter back and forth all the time. But I am trying hard. Why doncha pitch in, my misery loves company :)

    Thanks for your post, Viv-
     
  6. greeneyedbaby

    greeneyedbaby Member

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    God is a sick perverted fuck if he kills people like these who would never hurt a fly.
    [​IMG]

    And the cause of their death cannot be blamed on man.
    If there is a God, I'd like a word with him.
     
  7. MyAphrodesiac

    MyAphrodesiac Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    They call it a natural disaster for a reason people. God didn't cause it, and if man were a little more technilogically advanced, they could have predicted it. The only good that can come of it is we get our ass in gear and learn how to better predict these kinds of things.
     
  8. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Actually I don't think there's any way to predict earthquakes, unless you had a time machine...


    I will be donating too. I am really sorry for your losses...
     
  9. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    This is almost incomprehesible.

    I had an apocolyptic dream on Christmas night. My baby and my father and I were in a hotel, somewhere warm. I was looking out the window and saw, what looked to be the sun, in the middle of the night, people were screaming "look at the light, look at the light!!!!" and running around. It occured to me that as it got bigger and bigger it was an atomic explosion. I grabbed my baby, put her head down, so the light wouldn't get her eyes and ran to my dad's room, which was somehow in the middle of the floor of the hotel. We turned on CNN (weird how your brain works, I watch CNN in my dreams?) and someone was standing in a ruined street starting to give a report and suddenly everything went dark.

    I woke up terrified. Bear thought it was just stress from Christmas. The fear in the dream was palpable. People running and screaming. We woke up and my dd's pet mouse was actually dead.

    That day we saw the reports from SE Asia. I didn't connect them at once.

    Which organization, do you all think needs the most help? I was thinking either UNICEF or Doctor's Without Borders. It's gonna be the 4th circle of Hell there when the cholera and typhiod hits. And it will.

    God help everyone.
     
  10. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Earthquakes CAN be predicted. But not all the time, and often the magnatude cannot be predicted. Anyway, so many of these people lived on little islands, and even if they knew a Tsunami was coming, nothing could be done.

    This is so horrible.

    I think Bush should cancel his $40 Million dollar "Inaugeration" Party and donate ALL of it to SE Asia.

    George, I am so sorry about your family. My prayers are with you and the survivors in your family, too.
     
  11. greeneyedbaby

    greeneyedbaby Member

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    Appearantly, animals probably can.
    Apart from the fish that had been washed to shore by the tsunami, an abnormally small amount of animals have been found dead.
    It's fascinating.
     
  12. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I donated $100 to careusa.org The death toll has reached 117,000 and still climbing. We'll never know the exact number of dead as many places have stopped counting. Plus there's no telling how many people were washed out to sea.

    I saw that on the news how at a game preserve, 22 people were killed by the tsunami, but none of the elephants or leopards and few other animals were killed because they all retreated inland before it struck! They say animals have a sixth sense about approaching natural disaster which humans lack. Apparently it's true.
     
  13. greeneyedbaby

    greeneyedbaby Member

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    Yeah, that's what I saw too.
     
  14. whispers

    whispers sweet and sour

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    actually they can hear the low frequency sound waves that are generated by the events....
     
  15. Templedragon

    Templedragon Peace through Spirit

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    The sad thing is as the novelty and newness wears off, the news media will move on to other things, and the suffering of the living will just be kicking into high gear. No infrastructure, hospitals, police agenices, bridges, railroad tracks... all demolished. A Decade of rebuilding. Some total villages were wiped off the face of the earth, tribal lore lost, nobody left to remember.

    As much as I would resist attaching any 'end-times' connotation to this, it is definitely an occurance of a spiritual magnitude. Impossible to take in over 100,000 individual dramas of drowning and blunt trauma injury all happening together at the same time.

    Tonight, at the Sakya Tibetan Buddhist Monestary the Cenhrezi Meditation will have all merit dedicated to the dead and suffering in se asia.

    This is a good time for the healing and therapeutic nature of ceremony, ritual and even just talking to loved ones about the tyragic loss and horrific imagery. A time to be thankful.

    Peace,Viv-
     
  16. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    they ask that you dont...transporting that is too costly...if you do it just goes to local people who need them, which is still good...but if you wanna help overseas, send money. i sent a hundred bucks too..this is just so sad to me

    and i am so upset over how we have handled this...our donation of 35 million is only half of what they intend on spending for the inaugeration....sickening...and bush is sending his brothe.....go represent you prick....sorry.

    it is amazing the animals werent affected really....just shows if we would slow down enough to feel the earth talk to us, we might have known too....or speed up...who knows...btu if we could just be apart of it instead of living on it

    and i donated through the lds church...i was a member for years and know that although its a strange religion, its an honest one and if they say 100 percent is going to the fund, then it is the truth
     
  17. MysticSnowcone

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    Apparently a teacher from my school (who also serves as a city councilman) was over there when the tsunami hit, and saved a small boy from being washed away, but failed to save the boy's mother. Truly a tragic experience...

    He wasn't very well-liked around campus to say the least, it will be interesting to see how the incident impacts our school once it resumes.
     
  18. moonshyne

    moonshyne Approved by the FDA

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    It has less to do with a "sixth sense" and more to do with the way they're built. Cats are able to sense even the slightest change in air pressure because of their whiskers, and I suppose most other animals have something similar made to detect such things.

    I can't believe so many people stuck around! I mean, it's one thing if you're caught off guard by such an event, like if you're in a cafe or something and don't see it.....but during one interview someone on one of the beaches mentioned that the water rolled WAY out before it hit, and they thought it had something to do with the moon or the tide. Not that I'm saying anything bad about those people mind you, but it seems like that should have been a huge warning sign that something was terribly wrong.

    The last death count I read was at 119,000, and over 5 million people are currently without access to clean water, food, and medical supplies. I did the math, and the US donation of $35 million comes out to be about 7 bucks worth of help out there for each person affected. How generous is that? There was much more money than that raised for 9/11 victims (even though there were FAR less of them), but I guess this country figures non-americans aren't worth helping out. That is sickening.
     
  19. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    For most of my life I've had dreams (nightmares) of Tsunamis. I had a reservation to be in Indonesia & Thailand during this period & I did want to check out Koh Phi Phi (which got pretty wiped out) and of course Phuket where I stayed back in the '80s. Also Sri Lanka is a place I've visited before & wanted to return to during this trip (near Galle is where I stayed).

    But I cancelled my reservations months ago & instead moved to Spain. Perhaps some of us do have a 6th sense.

    Anyway this is a great catastrophe for the people affected by the tsunami. They are some of the poorest people on the planet, with not much in the way of infrastructure to cope.

    Please contribute what you can to the aid organizations mentioned at the start of this thread, or one of your choice.

    This is the largest disaster in most of our lives, and our response to it is very important and indicates whether we have evolved into a loving caring individuals (& species) or devolved into selfish, greedy capitalists.

    This kind of disaster is far more REAL & Dangerous than any kind of terrorism, yet where are the billions to setup warning systems & aid those in need? Gone to WAR and armaments which only enrich a few & kill & maim so many thousands.

    We are an interconnected world now, and it's far easier for us to help those in need.

    It took our president FOUR whole days to even acknowledge the greatest disaster in our lives. Was he reading children's books all that time? Or just on vacation, couldn't be bothered?

    BTW, Spain has now contributed FAR more than the US, about as much as the US & UK governments combined. If Spain can afford that much why can't the US?
     
  20. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    we cant afford it cause we are far too concerned with spending the money on bombing people instead of helping them....
     

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