trying to read her signs and body language....

The OP should ignore everything else said in this thread except for what Ms.lovely said. Being yourself...the most important.

 

She just forgot the part that not everyone would want to date her, either

 

I agree completely.

 

I will say from my experience...i did tell my ex how beautiful she was often...but it was genuine and at times ...it would just strike me. I think men sometimes forget that although women want compliments...if they are constant they tend to lose sincerity. I once had a neighbor that bought his wife flowers like once a week for a long time. I'm sure at first they made her feel good but after awhile...i'm sure the romance was lost with the thought....it wasn't spontaneous.

 

That's how my ex was. It became obvious after a while that he was telling me that I'm beautiful just to make it a point to do so. That doesn't mean anything...some guys think that it helps the girl's confidence. Really, it doesn't. When you say it too much, when he does say it and mean it, you don't feel it.
same thing with the flowers. it's awesome once and a while, but when you start to have a schedule, it doesn't mean near as much.

 

I personally think this whole "reading the signs" concept can be rather problematic because it could really promote lack of communication. Instead of actually getting to know someone by hanging out with them not just once or twice but OFTEN, now we've got this concept where you can magically "read" their "signs" based on their "body languages", "facial expressions", what-have-you, and make your decisions based on such things. But in reality I don't see this as a very practical approach. In my book, the only sure way to understand what someone is thinking is still by the tried-and-true method which is COMMUNICATION.

And really, what's wrong with being friends with someone you like? I personally think that, in an ideal situation, a friendship starts before something more intimate blossoms from it. Otherwise they just may very well be going to make an assumption that you're only after a single thing: sex. Telling someone they are beautiful is a nice gesture, but if you overdo it, it's just going to make you seem like you're just being overeager. OP, you just met this girl and you still don't really know her that well. You went on ONE date with her. I would be patient about this whole thing if I were you. Don't even worry about "zones". Just get to know her as a friend first and see if you still want her as a romantic partner.

About her ex-boyfriend... By the sound of it, I think they are still friends with each other... And why not? Good friends love one another, and there is nothing wrong with that. In their case, they also have a history together, and I'm sorry to say this but it's not like you can butt in between them in the first place. They already have a connection established. You and the girl haven't. Keep that in mind.

Remember, looks and intelligence alone don't mean much. The important thing is how well you two connect mentally/emotionally as people. Try not to think in terms of "signs". Instead, communicate not with dating but with learning about her in mind.

All the best.

 

Oh please! Of course they would! :tongue:

 

well, it's pretty depressing spending a lot of time with someone you have feelings for if they don't don't feel the same way.

friendship would come first in an ideal situation, but a vast majority of women refuse to get intimate with anyone they already know, so the ideal pretty much never happens.

lol

 

my friend moved to england to be close to a girl we knew from school who has kept in touch with him on the internet. he is in love and so is she, with someone else, and is getting married in four weeks. he is playing the 'long game' allegedly, and by that i assume he means hiding up a tree in her garden with a set of binoculars, masturbating and crying simultaneously. he had his chance years ago, but he stepped into the friend zone.

don't be that guy.

 

Hello everyone just bit of a update.....

Basically i thought i blew it but surprisingly got a txt from the girl today and i think she asked me out lol

We went to a bar and had dinner and a few drinks. When i first me her i gave her a kiss on the cheek, on the way home i think she initiated the kiss on the cheek goodbye, and i noticed when she was hugging me when i tried to move back she was still hugging me.

So i think things are looking up.

I asked her to come with me to a wine farm in the country next week and she said yes

 

yay! :2thumbsup:

 

Thanks for the update man. Hope all goes well.

Just take the best course of action in your mind, and if it doesn't work out, there's always more of them out there. Any questions or tips needed, we'll be here.

 

We are like the Dr Phils of the world here on HF...

 

Minus the annoying psychobabble or Dr. Robotnik head.

 

no no no no no no no.

seriously, you have a shot - make your move. kiss her already, don't do stupid shit like that.

congratulations, by the way.

 

who is dr phil?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8KN32tEHu0"]YouTube - DR. PHIL CLASSICS

 

yeah, i'm like him. just not as attractive.

 

Right on point. Questions like "are you dating someone?" and "what are you doing later?" are quite natural and should fit into ordinary conversations easily. Just take your mind to a place where you're already friends and interested in what's going on in her life, and you won't have to sweat the consequences of her responses. You're trying to0 hard and your agenda -- and insecurity -- is showing.

 

kiss her on the mouth. the mouth. here:



not here: