Trump's Response to COVID-19

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don't you realize CNN and MSM only prints news to protect the rotten corrupt left ? that's why the Manchurian says his administration is scandal free . the " press " buries it for him . but now, that the schifty schitt was made to turn over his interviews the left is in a panic . they're all scrambling to cover their asses . the left is calling for Barr and Durham to resign , among others . it is all going to come out sooner rather than later

 

You just make shit up, don't you

 

I have noticed the reporting of the number of people who died has slowed down. I know some states like Florida ordered their medical officers to stop reporting. It may be that now the Republican states have stopped reporting just to make Trump look good? Let's keep reading and see if we spot a pattern in reporting. Arizona ordered the two big universities to stop reporting on their research; but, I don't know about their medical examiners? We didn't go from 2000 dead each night to just a few from Democrat states. There has to be some reason for the discrepancy.

 

Not MSN. I've heard that about CNN, and realize they spin the news a little, but it's not a hard left. I'd be hard pressed to find an example of that; even for CNN I think.

Once, I respect your perspective. Something about the right feel really important to you, and that much is obvious. It could be that you have religious convictions, or maybe that the country becomes illiterate with language barriers from immigration. Maybe you have theories about the origin of our country and feel that it's being peddled away to crooks and thieves.

Maybe it's sort of all of the above, but I think you may have some misconceptions. I can only speak about where I stand, but I hope we can understand one another. It seems though that you tend to be on autopilot a lot of the time; sort of canned right-wing rhetoric, names, responses, etc. I can see your point.

But what is rotten or corrupt? I'm honestly asking.

 

I think you are going to be partaking in an exercise in futility trying to reason with once. But, no matter---maybe you can divert him from his rote republican parrotings and it's certainly your right to try. Maybe he will actually come up with something worth noting.

 

Probably not...

 

So when are they going to let Biden out of his basement?

 

Clearly freedom and individual choice are not high on your list of priorities. Owners of small businesses have right to offer their products to their willing customers, and you have no right to stop them. What is wrong with letting adults decide for themselves if they want to run the risk running and patronizing businesses? Instead, people of your ilk prefer the heavy hand of government telling people how to live their lives. Oh, but it's for your own good .... (as in you are too stupid to decide that for yourself what risks you want to take).

The enforced shutdown of the economy is going to have long term effects on the nation. One unintended consequence of the unemployment and material deprivation it causes will be an increase in depression, substance abuse, and suicide. There is no risk free world. Sooner or later, most of us are going to encounter this virus. Most people will be just fine as a result, and you and your merry band to statists have no moral right to tell them how to live their lives. Yes, some, particularly vulnerable people, will die of it, and while I admit, I prefer to encounter it after effective treatment protocols have been established, I want to determine my own level of risk acceptance.

Sweden, South Korea, Taiwan have managed this pandemic well without the almost draconian shutdown orders you so favor. Georgia is leading the way in the USA, faster than even Trump would have preferred. So far, at least, they have not suffered for it. Serious people in Germany have decried the shutdown imposed there:

Europe's #1 Newspaper Germany’s Das Bild Says ‘LOCKDOWN WAS A HUGE MISTAKE’ - Geller Report News

 

I am not so arrogant as to tell everyone else what to do. You apparently have no problem doing so.

Based on age, I am at some elevated risk, although I have no other risk factors that I am aware of. As a school teacher, I would willingly go to my post, instead of "teaching" from home they way I have been (it doesn't work as well, in my opinion, particularly for the weaker students). I would, however, insist that my colleagues and students take the same kind of precautions you did when you went to a barber. Now I teach in a parochial school where students are better behaved than in many American schools- different schools may, for good reason, make different decisions than I recommend for my school.

It sounds as though when you sent to the barber, you took reasonable precautions. What gives you- or anyone- the right to decide others cannot do the same?

 

That would be risky. While dealing with the economic fallout would be challenging for any administration, Trump is such a depraved and incompetent president that he'd be sure to screw up in ways we can't imagine. Looks like the Apocalypse is right on schedule.

As a denizen of one of those red states, I beg to differ. You're being selective in your measures. For example, Americans living in poverty are disproportionately in red (southern) states, including my own, Oklahoma. Nine states (including my own) have the worst socioeconomic mobility--all red states. The southern United States (red states) is below the national average in high school graduation rates and investment in education. Southern red states also are below average in life expectancy rates, lack of accessible health care, and health un-insurance. Blue states, like California, New York and Illinois, whose economies depend on on finance, trade and knowledge, have more income than red states. The portion of residents who are in the labor force has been growing in blue states and receding in red states since 2014. The American Human Development Index (AHDI) which provides a state-by-state assessment of such critical factors as income, education, and health. The average AHDI for the red states is considerably lower than the average AHDI for blue states.

It's quite true that Americans have been moving from blue states to red states--mainly because taxes are lower (you get what you pay for). And businesses and industry have been attracted by the friendly red state labor laws and lax regulatory environment. I wouldn't say this shows the red states are better.

After four years of Trump in office, I'd be willing to take a chance on a chimpanzee for the Oval Office. Betcha so would lots of people, which is why Biden seems to be doing so much better than Trump in the battleground states. If Trump can pull off a victory after his Covid-19 performance and the economic downturn, political scientists will be re-writing their textbooks.

 

Hey I don't make the laws. But I think they're reasonable. Public safety is a recognized part of the police power of state and local governments.

I'd be worried about the students. Schools tend to be breeding grounds for communicable diseases, which are then taken home and shared with the parents and grandparents. And that's how pandemics are fed. Too bad about your preference to teach face-to-face at a time when that would put the kids in danger. You can't always get what you want.

I was following the law in my state. I don't make the laws, I just follow them. How 'bout you?

 

WRONG!! I and many others prefer that "so-called" educated people would have enough common sense to understand that the more people go out and about, the greater the risk of being infected and, even if asymptomatic, those people can spread the virus and infect others who are trying their best to follow the MEDICAL EXPERTS' advice to stay put. That advice didn't originate with any politician - it came from the likes of Dr. Fauci, Dr. Gottlieb, Dr. Redfield, and other acknowledged infectious disease EXPERTS.

None of us are "locked down or locked in." That's a misnomer (false name - for the unread) used to politicize the advice to stay put. The idiots crowding beaches, and throwing crowded "Covid-19" parties haven't been arrested. But I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS:

If anyone chooses to ignore the advice of the MEDICAL EXPERTS, and goes out like everything's fine & mixes around in various places - they should be FORCED to sign a release that they give up all rights to medical treatment if they contract Covid-19, so as to not waste needed funds and medical personnel time on them. This would also apply to those in their families that they may infect going forward, and further that they & their families give up ALL right to sue anyone and all establishments - medical or otherwise for their illness. Pockets of Covid-19 are spiking from some of those geniuses at freedom-loving "Covid-19 parties."

Remember this: With freedom comes responsibility.

Why should badly needed funds, medical PPE, and worn-out medical personnel be wasted on the uncaring and stupid??? Try to come up with a sensible excuse/ rationale for that.

 

Which is pretty much what you would get with Geriatric Joe Dementia

 

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