Trump's Response to COVID-19

That's the problem with corrupt liars. They want everything their way with NO oversight, no media coverage, no accountability. Sounds just like COMMUNIST Russia, COMMUNIST China, COMMUNIST N. Korea, or Iran. Dare to open your mouth and you're put before a farce court, thrown in prison, or you disappear - never to be seen again, or you're killed - secretly or very publicly - to put fear into any future "rebels."

Hypocrisy. If I do or say something, that's OK. But if you say or do the same thing, you're a communist, a traitor, a terrorist, you're "no patriot", you're "fake", you're un-American, you're a nut-job, etc., etc. If Trump - or anyone else - doesn't want the spotlight on them, a 3-branch government to check them, and a Constitution that GUARANTEES a free press watching their every move …………. then don't get into politics. The press has a GUARANTEED RIGHT to ask questions of any president. Trump doesn't like that ……. so he effectively doesn't agree with the U.S. Constitution - which he took an oath to protect & uphold. He and Pence want to bar certain news agencies (that ask tough questions) from press briefings. Lying hypocrites.

"If you can't stand the heat - stay out of the kitchen."

 

LoL I asked about this just a few days ago in the Trump scorecard thread. No response, naturally. I get not liking the man but holy shit would it kill folks to have a substantial belief system beyond that?

 

OK, I just don't get this one.

 

I would say people's beliefs on many other topics lead to disliking Trump. It's not that we spend all day thinking of him but on many moral and legal grounds we take stands.

 

You're a little more nuanced and intelligent than the folks I'm referring to.
And don't get me wrong, I dislike Trump strongly. I’m pretty left in many ways... But fuck. Let's have a sense of proportion huh? He's just a man, heading one branch of three co-equals. It’s madness to blame him for every damn thing. Absolute madness.

 

Honestly, it would be more helpful to have a
Mitch McConnel Scorecard thread. Dude has blocked a mountain of legislation since, what, Obama’s third year? Dude is more powerful and a better politician than Trump. But hardly a peep about him on here. Folks just focusing on whatever the media is telling them to focus on.

EDIT: Not sure it was Obamas first midterm that Mitch became senate majority leader.

 

He's a dangerous man with a disproportionate control of the government. He should have been impeached if this was not the case. He's running a cult and any Republicans who speaks up will end their career. Even if he he looses in 2020 his advisors and the military are both prepared to for him to not accept this. . In the middle of a pandemic he is telling people to take untested drugs he has stock in. He claims to the best at everything but his supporters get mad when he comes up in every conversation. They are even turning on a doctor because he said Trump was wrong.

 

I hear you. He's a dickhead.
Buuut he really hasn't shown himself to terribly powerful. Or competent wielding what power he has.

 

I think that people don't totally realize what all has happened yet, or what it means. For many of the newly unemployed, it may only begin to sink in when they are homeless unfortunately. Then they will be outraged. For now, they have a $1,200 bonus coming their way.

People may understand that the money is tight right now; particularly if they pay their own rent. But I think that outrage will be felt when their is more despair. Just losing a job maybe doesn't feel like such a terrible thing to some. They may be secretly relieved. But the consequences of losing those jobs? Those will be felt a little bit after... I think we are in the eye of the storm so to speak.

 

To who? It's not the audience. Who do they answer to? Shareholders maybe. But otherwise it's more like media outlets are money machines with a relatively low overhead. So it can afford to take hits like circulation drops or lack of viewers for as long as the shareholders can hold out. That is the real test of their integrity.

But basically, anything you see on a screen or hear in a broadcast, is scripted artwork.


And Limbaugh? Kind of reminds me of Trump with all the absolutes and self aggrandization. I can tolerate Trump longer than Limbaugh. Which is still only 2 people. I doubt I care for more than 2 people in all of NPR. But I can say the same about Fox and CNN as well. Most of the press these days are sad performers with a string in their ear.

 

I'm sorry to hear that @MeAgain. I hope he gets unemployment soon. The $200 can work for food, and maybe the other things will go on the back burner this month. There may be some leeway on mortgages, but an awful lot would depend on the lending agency. It's a bad situation to be sure!

 

Limbaugh, Hannity even Ann Coulter (wherever she's lurking these days) have hired minions who do nothing but back end research. They don't just wing it and postulate. They are no different from news shows on the other side of the political and ideological divide. And on both sides the research work is slanted, but with enough factual backbone to buy most of society, even if they don't agree.

I think you're trying to paint them as hapless amateurs working out of a basement part time, and there's no way that parallels reality.

 

More of that personalizing disguised as stroking. Don't bother trying to seduce me.

Same as all the other news outlets since the civil war.

So are the former networks, though they have done a surprising job of staying afloat in the face of new technology. That is until the age of bullshit news for cash and prizes began. I put that around the time of Reagan since Nixon, Ford and Carter produced enough lolz for reporters that nobody had to make anything up to sell papers.

A group of antiquated alphabet soup pushing old money ideas packaged as the flavor of the week. None of them is credible unless you're firmly planted into hard left politics. Then they look like magical heroes who always know how to say the right thing.

Seriously, if you can't find fault in your sources, something's wrong. It doesn't have to be all of the time, but it has to happen every so often. And you have to be strong enough to admit that a mistake may have been made by those you idolize. Maybe you admire the way they "cleverly" slip their agenda into any discussion, be it parking boots or a recipe for cornbread. But I am weary of that sort of predictable crap.

Since it happens on both sides, I fail to see the logic in picking either.

So I have to dissect politics in order to vote the most effective path to what I believe. Neither party is even a 30% solution. And I have to read dozens of news sources daily to even feel close to being presented with reality. But even that formula is falling apart under the weight of identity reporting. Which is why I've always thought of Limbaugh as the Anti-Stern.

 

I found this article which describes inconsistency in our approach to granting funds to hospitals and medical agencies. The article suggests that the amount of money a state gets for a coronavirus case is somehow related to its medicare revenue. I'm not exactly sure how that makes sense. To highlight this discrepancy, the article notes that Nebraska, for example, is getting a ton more money than New York. While I love Nebraska and have family there, I can see where this poses a problem; New York really needs money right now.

Nebraska Getting $300G in Federal Money for Each Coronavirus Case While NY Gets $12G