Trump's Response to COVID-19

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  1. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Don't worry, I'm sure they are all evil Trump supporters not wearing masks


    Coronavirus US: Millions defy travel warnings to fly for Christmas

    "Travel warnings are falling on millions of deaf ears in the United States as domestic flyers took to the skies in large numbers over the weekend, despite an alarming surge in COVID-19 cases.

    More than a million people passed through US airport security checkpoints on both Friday and Saturday, a sign that many Americans are not paying heed to public health pleas to avoid holiday travel and non-essential social interaction."

    Millions of Americans defy travel warnings to fly for Christmas

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  2. hotwater

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    First published in the Billings Gazette then later shared with the Bozeman Daily Chronicle
     
  3. wrat1

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    U.S. deaths in 2020 top 3 million, by far the most ever counted. COVID-19 is to blame

    U.S. deaths increase in most years, so some annual rise is expected. But the 2020 numbers amount to a jump of about 15% — and could go higher once all the December deaths from the post-Thanksgiving coronavirus surge are counted.

    Either way, it would mark the largest single-year percentage leap since 1918, when tens of thousands of U.S. soldiers died in World War I and hundreds of thousands of Americans perished in a flu pandemic
     
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    Televangelist Pat Robertson Tells Trump: 'You've Had Your Day And It's Time To Move On'
    The evangelical leader praised the president's ability to raise money and draw crowds but also said he “lives in an alternate reality."

    Pat Robertson has a unexpected message for Donald Trump: He should forget about overturning the election.

    On “The 700 Club” Monday, the evangelical leader and former Republican presidential candidate discussed Trump’s slim and unrealistic chances of nullifying President-elect Joe Biden’s win and suggested the president face reality.


    Robertson praised Trump’s ability to raise money and draw crowds but also said the president “lives in an alternate reality,” adding, “He doesn’t lie ― to him, that’s the truth.”

    Robertson then conceded that Trump is “very erratic,” which makes dealing with him “a mixed bag” before suggesting the president’s day is done.

    “I think it will be well to say, ’You’ve had your day and it’s time to move on,’” he said.

    While Robertson conceded Biden was going to be the next president, he didn’t sound confident that the president-elect would be in office long: “I also think we’ll be seeing a President Kamala Harris not too long after the inauguration of President Biden.”




    Well said that man !!!
     
  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    There is a gap of about 50,000 extra deaths above covid

    So for every 7 Covid deaths you had an excess death from shutting down other surgeries or people just too scared to go to the hospital and the like

    And that's if you accept all 327,000 Covid deaths so far were because of Covid

    If you go with only 10% of them being Covid only deaths, then you are 1:1 for Covid only deaths vs deaths from shutting down supposedly non essential surgeries
     
  6. soulcompromise

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    They will issue $600 checks to everyone except American adult dependents. :rolleyes:
     
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    COVID-19 Primary, Not Only, Cause of 94% of Deaths (webmd.com)

    “Sometimes you can have multiple — four, five, six contributing factors — but there is still that primary cause of death,” she explained. “And in 95% of COVID-related deaths, COVID was the primary cause of death but there were contributing factors.”
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Well since you used that, we will go with 6% are Covid only deaths then

    So only 21,000 Covid only deaths in the US by the end of the year vs 50,000 extra deaths in no way related to Covid other than shutting down "non essential" surgeries
     
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    Why the “6%” meme stating COVID-19 deaths are exaggerated is wrong | Salon.com

    People with co-morbidities die at higher rates, as do older people (some without serious co-morbidities but with aging, less responsive immune systems)," he wrote. "None of which makes any difference — if these people had not contracted COVID they would not have died at this time! So they are ALL COVID-caused deaths."
     
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  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And the operative phrase being "at this time"

    You can post stuff like that until you are blue in the face

    Less responsive immune systems and aging -"None of which makes any difference" saying that is absolutely ridiculous. That's just saying what people want to hear

    If it were in anyway true deaths would be spread evenly across all age ranges

    And no one on the planet has yet to work out why it's causing the blood to clot, so there are no actual experts yet
     
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    well now thats just being obtuse everyone is going to die the how why and when are just details
     
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  14. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Well as I said masks and the vaccines are directly opposing strategies now. You want to convince younger people that the vaccines work and they should take them, then all those government officials and experts will have to explain that there are still deaths in the elderly that gave taken the vaccine (and there will be) because old people die all the time anyway

    Otherwise it will just be a mess of not enough people taking the vaccines and it will take years longer to work out how well they actually work
     
  15. hotwater

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    Here in Massachusetts we're starting to see those long lines of people being tested for COVID-19 again, just like we did just prior to Thanksgiving.

    Most of them have said they're doing so to prove their coronavirus negative in order to travel.- in three weeks from now the numbers of cases are going
    to be off the charts.
     
  16. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Yeah I realised that kind of thing with the one in Bondi on the weekend, the lines were a couple kilometres long, then yesterday way down, I realised most on the weekend were just getting tested so they could piss off out of Sydney for the holidays. The number that were actually getting tested out of some kind of civic duty a much smaller percentage
     
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    Hard to wrap my head around just how far we've gone down the rabbit hole for someone like Pat Robertson to seem like the voice of reason.
     
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    Hopefully the majority will see there is not a single panacea to solving this and realize they are complimentary NOT competing
     
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    Nothing like great "leadership" ................ right people?????

    Maybe muck-mouth lying hypocrite MOSCOW Mitch will "fix" things by pushing for another round of HUGE tax breaks for multi-millionaires and multi-BILLIONAIRES. That'll put the country back to good times.

    The scary thing is that some people ( LEMMINGS ) are still claiming that Trump is the best president the U.S. has ever had !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! o_Oo_Oo_O
     

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