Trump's Response to COVID-19

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Whites far less likely to die from the coronavirus than blacks, Latinos in L.A. County
Coronavirus: Why some racial groups are more vulnerable
Coronavirus in African Americans and Other People of Color
Opinion | Why Coronavirus Is Killing African-Americans More Than Others
Black and Asian Groups More Likely to Die From Coronavirus
Black and Asian Groups More Likely to Die From Coronavirus

 

It’s hard to believe but the CDC has been so corrupted by the Trump administration that it can no longer be trusted.

 

I always thought it was an independent body free from corruption by anybody.

 

Has anybody ever thought that Trump is behind CV, did any notice just how confident when he said there was no CV in America then the shit hit the fan and its that, that's sunk him, its one show that's lost its audience and with it the job.

 

Facepalm

I knew you were going to do that. Links to articles dated back in April?

And I have told you many many times before half a dozen links to articles on the exact same subject don't magically make your argument more valid.... especially if you DONT bloody copy and paste anything of relevance


Read the bloody link to the CDC data on race I gave you, data from January to August

Here it is again
COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Health Disparities

 

Ok, then tell us which countrys' data you would trust then

 

In the past I’ve posted data from the CDC and when you didn’t agree with it you rejected it out of hand.

Now you suddenly embrace the CDC, why because you now know it’s become a reliable source of disinformation?

 

Bullshit

And I'll ask the question again, which country's data would you trust?

 

So is there new evidence discrediting the relationship between susceptibility to Covid-19 and minority status? As of last June, "Almost every source of data on Covid-19 cases and deaths analyzed by ethnicity – the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre, the Office for National Statistics, the Institute for Fiscal Studies and Public Health England among others – has found that minorities are over-represented." Health | Society | The Guardian For a thorough analysis of the issue, see https://assets.publishing.service.g...lder_engagement_synthesis_beyond_the_data.pdf
Here are some more recent articles suggesting that the pattern contiues. If you read them, you'll discover that they do support my argument.
Note in particular these from July--August, 2020
Communities, Schools, Workplaces, & Events
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/full/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00897
Mounting US deaths reveal an outsize toll on people of color. New figures from the CDC highlight the stark disparity.

CDC, baby! Some have mentioned that the CDC seems to be politicized in the Trump era, but these recent accounts seem to support my conclusion.

"As many as 215,000 more people than usual died in the U.S. during the first seven months of 2020, suggesting that the number of lives lost to the corona virus is significantly higher than the official toll. And half the dead were people of color — Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans and, to a marked degree unrecognized until now, Asian Americans.

The new figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention highlight a stark disparity: Deaths among minorities during the crisis have risen far more than they have among whites."

"People of color make up just under 40% of the U.S. population but accounted for approximately 52% of all the “excess deaths” above normal through July, according to an analysis by The Associated Press and The Marshall Project, a nonprofit news organization covering the criminal justice system.

“The toll of the pandemic shows just how pervasive structural racism is,” said Olugbenga Ajilore, senior economist at the Center for American Progress, a public policy organization in Washington."

Accord:
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Digging Deeper: Racial healthcare disparities highlighted by Coronavirus
Black and Hispanic children are impacted more severely by coronavirus, research shows - CNN
Race gaps in COVID-19 deaths are even bigger than they appear
Coronavirus risk for Asians, Africans, Caucasians revealed
https://www.sciencenews.org/article...can-americans-vulnerable-covid-19-health-race

BTW, I provide multiple links to show that any one of them isn't a fluke.

Show me a single study showing that the finding of much higher minority susceptibility to the virus was bogus.
COVID-19 Provisional Counts - Health Disparities Oh, that one. As the report itself reminds us, this is provisional data based on death certificates. Explain to us what conclusions you're drawing from it concerning the issue in question, and why you think my earlier statement was "inaccurate". I see no contradiction between the data reported by CDC and what I've been saying.

Since we have no explanation from you about what was "inaccurate" about my previous statement, I can only guess it's a misinterpretation of the report, which seems to be commonplace among Trumpsters.
Fact check: CDC's data on COVID-19 deaths used in misleading claims
Fact check: CDC's data on COVID-19 deaths used incorrectly in misleading claims
Did COVID-19 cause only 6% of coronavirus deaths? Viral posts misrepresent CDC report
Fact check: Confusion about CDC's COVID-19 death count
Dr. Fauci And CDC Debunk Claims That COVID Deaths Are Exaggerated

Are you by any chance a member of Q Anon? They were the primary source of claims , based on the CDC reports, that deaths from Covid were far lower than originally claimed. What they do is look at figures for deaths in which Covid-19 is listed as the sole cause of death, and conclude that if there were other factors, Covid was not "the" cause. For non-white minorities, Covid deaths are associated with higher rates of obesity, hypertension, diabetes, and poverty than whites. Is that why you think it's "inaccurate" to say Covid got them?

I await your explanation.

 

What is your opinion on AIDS? Because this really proves my point and how silly your argument is. You want to trust data but ignore crucial facts. I suspect you ignored this because you know I'm right.

 

Dude, it's not my argument

I was just responding to some twit that said one guy that attended a bike rally another 250,000 people attended and died of the virus some how is a consequence of being a Trump supporter

 

No, they don't support your argument man

Copy and paste the relevant paragraph from any of those articles you think does

1. To prove you have actually read any of them
2. I will show you how they are misleading

The virus does disproportionately affect non Hispanic blacks and non Hispanic whites, but more so than other races, including Hispanics

So saying the disease disproportionately affects non whites is simply not true

 

On the campaign trail Trump has been promising the American people a vaccine before the November election.

The question is how could he possibly know, since the vaccine trials are done using a double-blind test so there is no way to know the effectiveness
of the vaccine until the trial is complete.

My concern is the FDA might approve the vaccine even if it's proven to be ineffective or harmful just to get trump re-elected

 

Just as long as Trump's supporters vote first, he doesn't care if they die from a vaccine afterwords.

It will probably end up being Lysol in a syringe...

"Knocks it out in, like, a minute" ~ Donald J. Trump

 

That is what I thought. You know I am right.




The Harley community is mostly right wing. At least the gangs are. Lot of ex-military guys who are nervous without having structure and "brotherhood" tend to be the prospects for groups like the Hell's Angels. They usually don't even wear helmets because the goverment is bad even though I worked for it. I've heard reports it was about 98% mask-less at Sturgis and people traveled from all over America just to be within inches of each other partying. Not a good combination. An American riding a Japanese bike will spend $1,000 on a helmet and leather jacket. Dress for the slide not the ride they say. Harley guys think it makes women laugh at them.

Trump has lost a lot of votes. Some of these men and their right wing families will not make it to November. You would think if they really cared about America they would want to live.
Sturgis Motorcycle Rally was 'superspreading event' that cost public health $12.2 billion: analysis

Based on the increase in case count, the German research group estimates that cases connected to the rally resulted in $12 billion in public health costs, not including the cost of any deaths that may have stemmed from a case there. The $12.2 billion cost is based on another estimation that $46,000 is spent per positive COVID-19 case. Researchers concluded that more than 266,000 cases were tied to the event.

The annual 10-day gathering began Aug. 7 and ran until Aug. 16. It drew more than 365,00 vehicles, according to South Dakota's Department of Transportation.

Most people who attended the event did not take coronavirus precautions like wearing masks and social distancing, The Associated Press reported at the time.

At least one death has been linked to the rally, a male biker in his 60s with underlying conditions. At least 260 cases in 11 states have been officially connected to the rally by public health officials.

"The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally represents a situation where many of the 'worst-case scenarios' for superspreading occurred simultaneously," the researchers wrote, "the event was prolonged, included individuals packed closely together, involved a large out-of-town population (a population that was orders of magnitude larger than the local population), and had low compliance with recommended infection countermeasures such as the use of masks."

 

I haven't heard of any. Is your avatar a photo of Keith Moon or do you just look like him?

 

It USED to be. Now Rump has put his hand-picked yes-person in there to censor and filter all info out of the CDC. No other President has ever done that - politicized the CDC. No other President has attempted to make the CDC a supportive agency for their political purposes - only Rump. He even took the unprecedented step of ordering all hospitals to send pandemic infection numbers to another agency instead of the CDC, so he could underhandedly lessen those actual case numbers.

Now the news broke that in an interview with Bob Woodward back in February, Donald J. Rump admitted to Woodward that he knew how Covid-19 is spread - through the air - and that's it's more deadly than regular flus are. He also told Woodward that he (Rump) downplayed the severity of the virus because - "he didn't want to cause a panic." Rump's admissions are once again ON AUDIO TAPE. Now try to deny THAT EVIDENCE!!!!!

How many people died because Rump refused to tell the truth about what he KNEW concerning the seriousness of the corona virus??

Some will undoubtedly ask why Bob Woodward didn't speak up sooner with that admission by Rump. Who in God's name in the Rump faithful flock of LEMMINGS would have believed Bob Woodward if he HAD told the whole story sooner?? The dolts who swallow everything Rump spews would have said, "Fake news. Liberal media! Democratic hoax again." The Rump LEMMINGS would have just continued to make jokes about wearing masks, calling mask-wearers "snowflakes", "pansies", "pussies", and other names like any 5 year-old would.

 

The economy that collapsed during his first term? That economy?