Trump's Response to COVID-19

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by walkoflife, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Walk

    Sorry if I got the tone wrong you list some supposed negatives of one candidate then say – that's who America could potentially get.

    It did seem to indicate a certain bias but that is easily cleared up – are you voting and if you are which party will get your vote for?
     
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  2. hotwater

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  3. soulcompromise

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    New GOP 'Skinny' COVID Relief Bill Doesn't Include More Stimulus Checks, Cuts Extra Unemployment Pay In Half
    Will it save us from debt & deficit?
     
  4. soulcompromise

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    the only way I can see democratic leadership approving of a bill without a stimulus check is if they think that it will make them look more attractive candidates for Senate, House, & President.
     
  5. Barry Thrift

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    So what your really saying as we don't have a hell chance of winning by fair means lets buy some fucking votes, cheap votes a 600 dollar's I think I'm right?.
     
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  6. soulcompromise

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    Who is "we" first....

    We as democrats definitely have a chance to win without buying votes as it were... I think though that necessity is dictating policy here. & the other team hasn't caught on/isn't buying it. They want to barely scrape by for awhile, welll F that

    I think a bit on UBI when this comes up, sure... but I think that stimulus is an interesting concept too. Trying to kick-start the economy as it were... And the strategy of waiting and seeing what happens first with the rest of CAREs won't work - some people are hanging onto it no matter what. I gave an example in another post of the senior citizen who is living comfortably on a fixed income and got a stimulus check. He's got nothing to spend it on and doesn't intend to spend it at all.

    There are those who won't spend their CAREs, so what are we waiting for? That's what I'm saying.

    & if the democratic leadership approves a bill without a stimulus check, it's probably because they think it plays poorly on republicans chances in the House/Senate/general election.
     
  7. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    He posts on a machine developed by science.

    Sad.
     
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    Another Trump supporter bites the dust.

    One of the 260 Trump supporters who were infected with coronavirus at the Sturgis bikers rally has died. I hope it was worth it to him -- sacrificing his life for a conman.
     
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  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You do get that the vast majority of people that have died of the virus (I should say died of heart attacks, dementia, cancer, strokes, stubbed toes whilst having the virus) died in blue states right?

    How many people did Cuomo, Inslee, Whitmer and Murphy kill?
     
  12. Tishomingo

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    Source? You do get that the virus made its debut in the more commercial/industrial (i.e., blue) states, but seems to have spread to red ones like Texas, Arizona, Florida, Louisiana, Iowa, the Dakotas, Arkansas, and West Virginia. The blues states also have higher average minority populations who seem to be more susceptible to the disease. So your statistic may be an artifact. The premature opening of schools and universities in my area in response to Trump's urging has spawned an upsurge of cases, but it may take awhile for the kids to infect Mom, Dad, Grandma, and Grandpa, so time may change the picture considerably.
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    It may take a while huh?

    Well, let me guess, 4 months?

    You get to the middle of winter, deaths go back up and you will be blaming kids going back to school last September for that

    .... rather, than, you know, it being the middle of winter

    Shake my head
     
  14. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Because most people live in blue states

    In other words most people are not Republicans. I am positive I know why you said this. No one on the right wing read the whole thing as usual they cherry picked. It again shows your lack of medical understanding.

    By your logic AIDS does not kill anyone and never has because something like pneumonia would. Of course the autopsy will say AIDS but we know that's a lie.

    Do you also believe AIDS is not real or "a flu"?
     
  15. Vanilla Gorilla

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    The popular vote split in 2016 was 46% rep to 48% dem

    With just 59.7% of eligible voters bothering to vote


    So a statement like most people aren't democrats would also be true, since only 66 million out of 323 million at the time actually bothered voting for the Democrat nominee

    That's only 20.4%

    Or 24% if you just count all adults
     
  16. unfocusedanakin

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    Not at all because traditionally the people who don't vote are Democrat. They are the party most likely to have people who don't care and see both sides as bad because it's essentially a moderate right wing party by European standards. Republicans always vote because they always agree with their man and they buy into a us vs them mentality. Look at Trump they agree with his idea that everyone hates them so they must do something.

    Gun rights, not allowing abortion, and liberal tears are always the platform.
     
  17. unfocusedanakin

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    You really expect me to believe Trump has people who would have voted for him but could not be bothered? The man who more than any other Republican ever has inspired? Lol ok.
     
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  18. Tishomingo

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    So because of the difficulty of statistically determining whether the source of infection is the kids or "the winter", you write off the former and shake your head? Why did you raise the question in the first place? You seem to be intrigued by the correlation between Covid-19 deaths and blue states. Are you implying a causal relationship? Didn't your stat professor tell you correlation isn't causation.

    Other elements besides party affiliation, strongly correlated with party affiliation, might be at work, especially: (1) population density: nearly ine -third of Americans live in one of the 100 most densely populated counties in the U.S. The infection rate from Covid-19 in the most urban areas of the U.S. are nearly twice that of the suburbs and more than twice the rate of rural counties. (2) non-white population. Non-whites are more susceptible to the virus than whites, and more likely to die from it. Iowa, for example, has a black population of 4% and an Hispanic population of 6%, but nearly !2% and 33% of the infected populations are black and Hispanic, respectivley. What theoretical basis would you suggest for a hypothesis that party affiliation causes corona fatalities? (3) as previously mentioned, Covid made its debut in the more commercial/industrial blue states of the northeast, but also saw its most dramatic decline in those states as a result of policies that Republicans criticized as draconian. New York is a case in point. People like BBLB are now asking why New York doesn't reopen businesses at a faster rate? Possibly because it doesn' want a resurgence of the virus, such as is being experienced in red states that reopened too fast. NYS COVID-19 percent positive rate continues downward trend | wgrz.com The Midwest is seeing a spike as infections decline elsewhere. The Midwest Sees a Spike as Covid-19 Cases Decline Elsewhere
     
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